L25 PTV ArtofWar (X+12) v Surfer (L)

[surfer]

@ArtofWar1947 5 brit inf + 1 AA boarded 3 US transports in SZ113

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

Scramble to Trans-Jordan?

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[surfer]

@ArtofWar1947 No scrambles. But I will intercept in Normandy.

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

Did not see the UK fighter hiding in N_B. If I may, will bomb Egypt instead.

[surfer]

@ArtofWar1947 sure. No problem

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

Instead of closing out the present map and redoing the CM, I will ignore the arial combat and (if the bmr survives) will use the AA roll and bomb damage roll only. If the bmr does not survive the arial combat, I’ll roll the AA and bomb damage on the Forum.

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

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Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour moved from Southern Caucasus to Iraq
              Italians take Northwest Persia from British
              Italians take Iraq from British
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Greece to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Syria
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Alexandria
        2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to Alexandria
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux

    Combat - Italians
        Air Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Italians attacks with 1 units heading to Normandy Bordeaux
            Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
        Strategic bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans roll AA dice in Normandy Bordeaux : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor
            Bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux causes 6 damage total. 
        Battle in Syria
        Battle in Alexandria
            Italians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 2 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Alexandria, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria
            Italians win, taking Syria from French, taking Alexandria from British with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
            Italians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan
            Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Malta
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Ukraine
        4 infantry moved from Southern France to France
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Crete to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Syria
        1 marine moved from Crete to 101 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 marine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to 100 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Alexandria to Malta
        1 fighter moved from Malta to Gibraltar
        1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 infantry placed in Southern France
        1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
        2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
        Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
        Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 2.00
Americans AA : -0.17
British regular : -1.00

[surfer]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 8

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[surfer]

The 2 fr inf are on 1 US transport in SZ113
the 5 UK + 1 AA are on 3 US transports.

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

Scramble to H-B?

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[surfer]

@ArtofWar1947 Nope.

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

Battle of Yaroslavl

Ger inf [dice 1d6<=1]
Ger fig [dice 1d6<=3]
Ger tac [dice 1d6<=4]

Rus inf [dice 1d6<=2]

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1d6<=1: 2; Hits: 0
1d6<=3: 2; Hits: 1
1d6<=4: 6; Hits: 0
1d6<=2: 5; Hits: 0

[ArtofWar1947]

@ArtofWar1947

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Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries and 21 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Northern Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Northern Caucasus
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to Holland Belgium
        1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Southern Persia
              Germans take Southern Persia from British

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Germans attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Northern Caucasus
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
            Germans win, taking Northern Caucasus from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Yaroslavl: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Yaroslavl from Russians to Germans
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Caucasus to Iraq
        1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 100 Sea Zone to Syria
        1 bomber moved from Northern Caucasus to Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Southern France to France
        1 aaGun moved from France to Western Germany
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 artillery moved from Vyborg to Finland
        2 destroyers and 2 transports moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Leningrad to 118 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Finland
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vyborg
        1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Germany
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 100 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 submarine moved from 85 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
        1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Leningrad
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Germany
        3 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to France
        4 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France

    Place Units - Germans
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in France
        3 infantry placed in Romania
        3 infantry placed in Leningrad
        5 infantry placed in Germany
        9 infantry placed in Western Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 114 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 116 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs

[surfer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 3 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Yaroslavl
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Yaroslavl
        1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Northern Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
              Russians take Rostov from Italians

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Yaroslavl
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl
            Russians win, taking Yaroslavl from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Northern Caucasus
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Caucasus
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northern Caucasus
            Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter moved from Northern Caucasus to Stalingrad
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yaroslavl to Russia
        2 infantry moved from Urals to Timguska
        1 infantry moved from Urals to Samara
        1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Samara
        1 submarine moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        3 artilleries placed in Russia
        3 infantry placed in Stalingrad
        2 infantry placed in Urals

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.33
Russians regular : 1.00

Savegame

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

Scramble to Paulau?

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[surfer]

@ArtofWar1947 No scrambles.

[ArtofWar1947]

@surfer

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Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 battleships, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau
        2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Paulau
        1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to Paulau
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Paulau
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 4 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 2 infantry and 1 marine
                Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 2 cruisers in Paulau, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 4 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Paulau, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 6.67 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 marine in Paulau, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Paulau
                2 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 marine owned by the ANZAC lost in Paulau
            Japanese win, taking Paulau from ANZAC with 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry and 1 marine

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 marine moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 marine, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Paulau to Davao
        5 fighters moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Paulau to Davao
        1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao
        1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Davao
        1 bomber moved from Paulau to Davao
        1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Davao
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Dzavhan
        1 artillery moved from Chahar to Central Mongolia
        2 infantry moved from Shansi to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi
        1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
        1 artillery moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry placed in French Indo China
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kwangtung
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
        1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in Japan
        1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -3.00
ANZAC regular : 0.00

[surfer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 armour, 4 artilleries, 8 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Guam
        Battle in Southern France
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 8 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry
            Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 8 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 3/15 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
            Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Southern France from Italians with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 8 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 infantry and 3 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
        3 submarines moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
        3 submarines moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to New Brunswick Nova Scotia
        2 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 marines moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 marines, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 2 submarines moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 marines moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 27 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 53 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 64 Sea Zone to New South Wales

    Place Units - Americans
        1 airfield, 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
        2 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Eastern United States
        1 fighter placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 87 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4
        Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
        Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from New Brunswick Nova Scotia: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 110 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 113 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 113 Sea Zone: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 113 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -1.33
Italians regular : -0.33

Savegame

[surfer]

@ArtofWar1947 Edited US transports. TripleA spread 4 inf over 4 transports.