XDAP Semifinal: JDOW+ME1945 vs Adam+AxisDominion Allies+35

[axis-dominion]

3 hits on 19…need casualty choice

[Me1945]

Damage 1 AC and 2 BBs

[Adam514]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from New Zealand to 21 Sea Zone
            6 fighters moved from 45 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Finland
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Finland
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from New Zealand to 35 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 21 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Finland
                Americans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Americans win, taking Finland from Germans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Battle in 19 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 6 fighters
                Japanese defend with 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 4 transports
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 2 battleships owned by the Japanese
                Japanese win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -60
                Casualties for Americans: 6 fighters
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese forced to land in Manchuria

Non Combat Move - Americans

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[Adam514]

2 tacs should land where?

[Me1945]

Manchuria

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from New Zealand to 21 Sea Zone
            6 fighters moved from 45 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Finland
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Finland
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from New Zealand to 35 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 21 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Finland
                Americans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Americans win, taking Finland from Germans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Battle in 19 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 6 fighters
                Japanese defend with 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 4 transports
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 2 battleships owned by the Japanese
                Japanese win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -60
                Casualties for Americans: 6 fighters
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese forced to land in Manchuria

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 infantry moved from Johnston Island to 30 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers and 3 destroyers moved from 45 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Finland to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Finland to Norway
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
            1 aaGun moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 88 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 aaGun moved from Western United States to Central United States
            2 bombers moved from Eastern United States to Norway
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Gibraltar
            2 bombers moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 bomber moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 bomber moved from New Zealand to Eastern United States
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands

Place Units - Americans
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Norway
            4 bombers placed in Eastern United States
            3 infantry placed in Central United States
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Philippines: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Paulau Island: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5
            Americans collect 68 PUs; end with 68 PUs total
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 93 PUs

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[JDOW]

Wow, I didn’t expect you’d go for that triple attack. This will be an exciting Anz/Russian move.

[Adam514]

@JDOW:

Wow, I didn’t expect you’d go for that triple attack. This will be an exciting Anz/Russian move.

Usually Anzac would finish the battle themselves, Russia is just additional safety.

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                  Chinese take Kweichow from Japanese
            2 fighters and 3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol
            EDIT: 2 bombers moved from Norway to Gibraltar

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Jehol
                Chinese attack with 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Jehol from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
            2 fighters moved from Jehol to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Suiyuyan
            Chinese undo move 1.
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Hopei: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Chahar: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Suiyuyan: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 infantry placed in Shensi
            3 infantry placed in Suiyuyan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 12 PUs total

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[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  British take Tunisia from Italians
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 70 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in 70 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Italians defend with 1 submarine
                British win, taking 70 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - British
            1 battleship and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 4 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            3 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt
            2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
            4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs total

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

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[JDOW]

@Adam514:

@JDOW:

Wow, I didn’t expect you’d go for that triple attack. This will be an exciting Anz/Russian move.

Usually Anzac would finish the battle themselves, Russia is just additional safety.

Then I have made strange calculations. Although the battle is not easy to calculate because of the subs potential surprise strikes and damaged BBs I believe Anzac has rather little chances to finish Japan off by themselves? Did you consider Kamikaze?

[Adam514]

@JDOW:

@Adam514:

@JDOW:

Wow, I didn’t expect you’d go for that triple attack. This will be an exciting Anz/Russian move.

Usually Anzac would finish the battle themselves, Russia is just additional safety.

Then I have made strange calculations. Although the battle is not easy to calculate because of the subs potential surprise strikes and damaged BBs I believe Anzac has rather little chances to finish Japan off by themselves? Did you consider Kamikaze?

It’ll be close, but even with 1-2 hits less with the US attack I estimate over 50%. The calc is quite inaccurate in this type of battle since it kills subs first.

[JDOW]

I believe it is way less than 50%.
Its 6 v 7 HP and 15 vs 20 attack. Even with taking figs down first Japan will most likely win.
The problem is rather that both BB would need to survive in order to save the transport. But also sending 2 Russian air into death would be beneficial.

Anyway, dice will tell!

[axis-dominion]

@JDOW:

I believe it is way less than 50%.
Its 6 v 7 HP and 15 vs 20 attack. Even with taking figs down first Japan will most likely win.
The problem is rather that both BB would need to survive in order to save the transport. But also sending 2 Russian air into death would be beneficial.

Anyway, dice will tell!

I guess you’re assuming the kami’s would be successful, which by the way, the kamis don’t apply here per pg. 16 para 3

[JDOW]

Yes, I assume the Kamis would be successful and I definitely believe they apply in sz19.
I never heard about something else. Would be a total surprise and blow up if they wouldn’t.

[JDOW]

to be clear. I am totally aware that Kamis can only hit surface ships.
However without them the odds for Anzac are certainly below 50% that’s why I was wondering if the DD and CC was accounted in.

But anway…the decision has been made and the dice will roll, so I just hope that it goes to odds and that the Aussie evil invaders will die miserably ;)

[Adam514]

Why wouldn’t kamis apply?

It would be unlikely if both kamis hit though.

Anyway I did the US-Anzac double 10 times (no kamis) and Allies won 6 (I also had the impression that Allied dice were inferior), so with Russia the whole ordeal is over 50% easily imo.

[Adam514]

Btw may we have kami orders by the time Italy is posted please?

[Me1945]

@Adam514:

Btw may we have kami orders by the time Italy is posted please?

Yes, if ANZAC goes all force attack, assign 3 kamikaze strikes to each ship.

[JDOW]

Sorry for the delay Gents, couldn’t finish it during the weekend and no time during the weekdays this week.