Redrum's and P@nther's battle thread

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from 61 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 57 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 61 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 61 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 51 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 49 Sea Zone to Borneo
                  Japanese take Borneo from British
            2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 51 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 51 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to East Indies
                  Japanese take East Indies from British
            1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 51 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 51 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 48 Sea Zone to New Guinea
                  Japanese take New Guinea from British
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Burma
            3 infantry moved from French Indo-China Thailand to Burma
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 61 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Kwangtung
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
            3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Fukien

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from British with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Burma
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Burma from British with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Fukien
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Fukien from Chinese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Suiyuan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuan from Chinese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 50 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 53 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 4 fighters
                Americans defend with 1 battleship
                Japanese win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 carrier moved from 61 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 57 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 53 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuan to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 fighter moved from Fukien to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to French Indo-China Thailand

Place Units - Japanese
            2 transports placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 31 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Objective 1: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Objective 2: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs
            1 unit repaired.

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 9 times
            2 was rolled 8 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 6 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 31

British Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4,333
        Median : 4,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 3

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 1,000
        Median : 1,000
        Variance : 4,000
        Standard Deviation : 2,000
        Total rolls : 2

Chinese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,000
        Median : 3,000
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 2

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 6 times
            2 was rolled 8 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 5 times
            6 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,739
        Standard Deviation : 1,319
        Total rolls : 24

As the purpose of our games is to give you ideas for improving the AI I’m absolultely fine on commenting on ideas and strategies while playing.  But my last games of AA50 were about five years ago, so I need to see the map to be sure not to mix territories and seazones up when explaining. So I will comment on this later when I am back home.  :-)

@redrum:

…Is it pretty standard for Japan to attack New Guinea and leave the transport exposed? I believe it was to get the Japan objective but I’m just curious.

Actually, I don’t remember exactly what was standard years ago when AA50 was the game to play.
But as you know in AA a decision to do something quite often corresponds to the decision to leave something out.
In my Jap1, I decided to leave out the Philippines in order to take Burma and put a lot of pressure on India on Jap2.
So you are right, in order to get the NO bonus, New Guinea had to be taken. The transport is -7 and the gain is 5+1.
With the rest of -1 I paid for the 2/3 chance to eliminate the now exposed British Destroyer wihtout further loss, as the
British destroyer can not be supported by US ships.

The British destroyer sometimes joins with the US navy - in that case it could have a long and painful life…

I should add some thoughts on the Philippines.
As you see the decision to leave out the Philippines on Jap 1 is also a decision to give the US their Philippine-NO on US1.
The benefit it a lot of options for Japan; either go for India in J2, to Australia in J2, Philippines is an easy catch in J2
and of course China in J2.

What will happen in J2 is of course dependend on the Allies’ reactions.

Taking the Philippines in J1 is not a 100% chance, and limits the possibilities for Japan in J2.

So that is why I did what I did. I may be wrong on details of course. Just tell me if you see aspects differently.
I’m always open to new ideas … and - even after years - still learning.  :-)

I wonder why there are ??? showing when I wrote J1 - must have been a typo…

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Italy to 14 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 15 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Italy to Egypt

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Libya
            1 armour moved from Italy to 14 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Balkans to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Balkans to Bulgaria Romania

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 13 PUs total
            Objective 2: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3,444
        Median : 4,000
        Variance : 1,625
        Standard Deviation : 1,275
        Total rolls : 9

Italians Combat
            2 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3,714
        Median : 4,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 7

British Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,500
        Median : 2,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 2

I agree on this consideration. On the other hand the additional cash can be really helpful regarding the intended build on J2.

I will do G2 tomorrow, as I’m still not at home and it will be too late tonight.

@redrum:

Also I assume that leaving the transports outside Japan was just an oversight. Though it does make Russia give up its NO.

That was a stupid oversight, indeed.  :cry:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 bomber and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Norway to Baltic States
            1 fighter moved from Poland to Baltic States
            2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Libya to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
                  Germans take Anglo-Egypt Sudan from British

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Germany to France
            1 fighter moved from Norway to France
            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to France
            1 fighter moved from Morocco Algeria to France
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Bulgaria Romania
            1 artillery moved from Poland to Bulgaria Romania
            1 artillery moved from East Poland to Bulgaria Romania
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bulgaria Romania
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bulgaria Romania
            1 infantry moved from Germany to France
            6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 armour moved from Ukraine to Bulgaria Romania
            2 armour moved from East Poland to Bulgaria Romania
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Morocco Algeria to Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt

Place Units - Germans
            1 bomber and 9 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Objective 2: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Objective 1: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 2,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 2,250
        Standard Deviation : 1,500
        Total rolls : 5

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 2,250
        Median : 2,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 4

Russians Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1,000
        Median : 1,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Yes, I’m still thinking about J2…

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Fukien to Hupeh
                  Japanese take Hupeh from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan
                  Japanese take Yunnan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Fukien to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Burma to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 61 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 60 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 60 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 61 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            2 infantry moved from Borneo to 49 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 49 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indo-China Thailand to Philippine Islands
            2 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            1 fighter moved from 51 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            1 fighter moved from French Indo-China Thailand to Kiangsu
            2 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 fighter moved from French Indo-China Thailand to India
            2 fighters moved from 51 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to India

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Philippine Islands
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 4 infantry
                Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Philippine Islands from Americans with 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 48 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking India from British with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kiangsu
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kiangsu from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 carrier moved from 51 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 50 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from India to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuan to Manchuria
            1 carrier moved from 51 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Philippine Islands to 50 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kiangsu to 61 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 48 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            2 fighters and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 bomber placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Objective 1: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs
            Objective 2: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
            Objective 3: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 7 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 4 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 6 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3,393
        Median : 3,500
        Variance : 0,519
        Standard Deviation : 0,720
        Total rolls : 28

British Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,667
        Median : 1,000
        Variance : 2,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,581
        Total rolls : 3

Americans Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4,500
        Median : 4,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 2

Chinese Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,000
        Median : 3,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 5 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 6 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3,409
        Median : 4,000
        Variance : 0,762
        Standard Deviation : 0,873
        Total rolls : 22