Martin Axis VS dawgoneit Allies A&A Classic

[Martin]

Is it not possible to retreat in Classic? I wanted to retreat in India, but the fight just continued :thinking_face:

Japan 04.tsvg

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
              Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians
        2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India
        1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from East Indies to East Indies Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from East Indies Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Indian Ocean Sea Zone to India

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Indian Ocean Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship and 2 transports
            British defend with 1 transport
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 transports in Indian Ocean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 transport in Indian Ocean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the British lost in Indian Ocean Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in India
            Japanese attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            British defend with 2 armour, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Russians defend with 1 fighter
                Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in India, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 armour, 3 fighters and 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 2 armour owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the British and 2 armour owned by the British lost in India
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in India, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 3 fighters in India, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in India
            British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -33
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 armour and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 fighter

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 battleship moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        2 fighters placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 34 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.50
British regular : 2.83

[dawgoneit]

@Martin for some reason if you transport it wont retreat. how would you like to handle it?

[Martin]

If you do not mind, I would retreat after the first round. I could edit it in 30 minutes.

[dawgoneit]

@Martin all good my friend.

[dawgoneit]

@dawgoneit can i have a UK tank back

[Martin]

Please see the edited savegame. I understand that you would have chosen one fighter as a loss instead of a second tank, so I added back a tank and not a fighter - is that correct?

40120 Classic Round 04 Japan - edited.tsvg

Original losses:

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
              Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians
        2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India
        1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from East Indies to East Indies Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from East Indies Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Indian Ocean Sea Zone to India

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Indian Ocean Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship and 2 transports
            British defend with 1 transport
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 transports in Indian Ocean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 transport in Indian Ocean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the British lost in Indian Ocean Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in India
            Japanese attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            British defend with 2 armour, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Russians defend with 1 fighter
                Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in India, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3,17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 armour, 3 fighters and 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 2 armour owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the British and 2 armour owned by the British lost in India
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in India, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 3 fighters in India, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in India
            British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -33
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 armour and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 fighter

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 battleship moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        2 fighters placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to French Indo China: 1 bomber and 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0,50
British regular : 2,83

[Martin]

In case I mis-understood, please edit, when you do your turn for the US.

[dawgoneit]

@Martin I was thinking I dont no if i would have taken a tank over a fighter. what do you think.

[Martin]

Keeping three fighters and producing in India will maximize your defense against these nasty Japanese aggressors from French Indo China.

But you will not be able to conquer back China for the US, in case Russia doesn’t do so.

I think I would keep the three fighters, as there is not much too conquer, next round, for which you would need land forces.

[Martin]

And the fighter is worth more than two tanks.

[dawgoneit]

@Martin f9a99213-e7c6-47e5-86e9-3ae4b935d748-USA 4.tsvg

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Americans
        Americans spend 5 on tech rolls
            Americans rolls : 1/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits
        Americans discover Rockets Advance

    Activate Technology - Americans
        Americans activating Rockets Advance

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from West US to Japan Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from West US to West US Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from West US Sea Zone to Wake Island Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Wake Island Sea Zone to Wake Island
        2 infantry moved from West Canada to West US
        3 infantry moved from Alaska to West Canada
        3 bombers moved from Hawaiian Islands to Wake Island

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Japan Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Japan Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 transport in Japan Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in Japan Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to India: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Americans has no targets to attack with rockets
        1 bomber moved from Japan Sea Zone to Wake Island

    Place Units - Americans
        1 transport placed in West US Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 1 infantry placed in West US

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 34 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 1.00
Japanese regular : -0.17
Americans rolls : 1.00

[dawgoneit]

@dawgoneit 25741f5c-582b-4b6f-b27a-4035441a4a31-Russia 5.tsvg

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Novosibirsk
        1 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter moved from India to Novosibirsk
        2 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Caucasus
            Russians attack with 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
            1 infantry owned by the Russians retreated to Russia
            Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Novosibirsk
            Russians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
            Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
            Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R.
            1 armour owned by the Russians retreated to Evenki National Okrug
            Japanese win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters moved from Novosibirsk to Russia

    Place Units - Russians
        7 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.67
Germans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : -0.17

[Martin]

With the US having heavy bombers, the Axis will need to play high risk. I will attack Moscow with Germany :dizzy_face:

[Martin]

Sorry!

40120 Classic Round 05 Germany.tsvg

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 4 armour and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        9 armour and 10 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Russia
        1 fighter moved from East Europe to Russia
        1 fighter moved from Germany to Russia

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Russia
            Germans attack with 9 armour, 2 fighters and 11 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 16 infantry
                Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 1 fighter and 11 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 10/21 hits, 6,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 16 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 5/20 hits, 7,33 expected hits
                10 infantry owned by the Russians and 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 4/16 hits, 6,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 6 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 5/10 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Russians and 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Russia, round 4 : 4/11 hits, 5,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 4 : 3/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Germans roll dice for 7 armour and 1 fighter in Russia, round 5 : 6/8 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters in Russia, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia
            Germans captures 15PUs while taking Russians capital
            Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 6 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
            Casualties for Germans: 3 armour, 1 fighter and 11 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 armour, 2 fighters and 16 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 battleship, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from East Mediteranean Sea Zone to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from South Europe to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Central Mediteranean Sea Zone to Libya
        5 infantry moved from East Europe to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from Germany to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.

    Place Units - Germans
        3 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R.
        1 armour placed in South Europe
        4 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 61 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -1,33
Germans regular : 2,00
Russians AA : 0,67

[dawgoneit]

@Martin 4bcf61d8-cf5b-4091-878a-49a850aa725f-Britts 5.tsvg

Game History

Round: 5

    Research Technology - British
        British spend 5 on tech rolls
            British rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany

    Combat - British
        Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU.
            Bombing raid costs 1 PU

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Germany to United Kingdom

    Place Units - British
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in India
        1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans AA : -0.17
British rolls : 0.00

[Martin]

Japan 05.tsvg

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Evenki National Okrug
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Evenki National Okrug
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 armour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Evenki National Okrug
            Japanese win, taking Evenki National Okrug from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
        Battle in Sinkiang
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sinkiang
            1 fighter owned by the Japanese retreated
            Americans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from Sinkiang to French Indo China
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Japan
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
        2 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 battleship and 2 transports moved from Indian Ocean Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from Indian Ocean Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Evenki National Okrug to French Indo China

    Place Units - Japanese
        8 infantry placed in Japan
        3 infantry placed in French Indo China

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.67
Japanese regular : 0.33
Russians regular : -0.33

[dawgoneit]

@Martin 120d6ce6-40c8-41df-9145-f73ca009ed52-USA…tsvg

I do believe this 1 is done.

[Martin]

Does this mean you resign? Maybe too early, as two capitals are needed. As you wish. Let me know, and I will play Germany, or we can start another one.

Maybe the next game we switch sides and leave the tech aside?

[Martin]

OK, I had a closer look, and I believe your are right. Germany can increase its IPCs by spreading out in Asia and Africa and at the same time prepare Sea Lion. The US will be too late to intervene.

Having a look back at our game, I believe that having the US going 100% against Japan and completely ignoring Germany - over several rounds - is not a viable strategy. Germany must be forced to dedicate troops to defend West Europe.

I have some things coming up, but if you like, we can switch sides and maybe leave aside these nasty tech dice, in a week or two. What do you say?

[dawgoneit]

@Martin I’m Game Lol. Just let me no when you start. Thanks for the fun games.