L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3

  • '19

    sorry thought i reposted. though probably be easier to concede. 1% chance at probably game ending dicing. but whatever Ill see what happens.

  • '19

    nah its probably already over. worse than that. its ok to lose both air, but not to get blocked from 92.

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Greece
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
                  Italians take British Somaliland from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
            Battle in 93 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine
                French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the French and 1 cruiser owned by the French lost in 93 Sea Zone
                Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Trans-Jordan from British, taking 93 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Battle in Tunisia
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia
                Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French, 1 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
                Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
            2 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians : -0.83
    French : -0.83
    Neutral_Allies : 0.33
    

    Savegame

  • '19

    meh, i dont feel like playing this out. Ill concede. Sub 1% chance things to go horribly wrong so I suppose I will lose a game like this every now and then. Similar to France.

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    I don’t blame you. It is virtually impossible to come back from losing SZ96 like that. As you say just like France for the Germans. Play enough games and those silly 1% results eventually bite you. This is twice now I have seen this happen. Once in a face to face game too and my Opponent immediately conceded.

    Thank you for the game.

    Let me know if you want to try again or take a break. :)


  • sorry to bud in, but are you sure about conceding this early? Andrew is new to BM3, so your experience advantage should help compensate. and losing gib isn’t the end of the world, tho it can be a challenge to get back, and maybe impossible against a really strong player (but then, that requires more dedication which takes away from the eastern front). also, luck may and usually does come back if you play out long enough. one more thing: sometimes the best/funnest games are the kind that do NOT go as expected early on, forcing you off the beaten path and into new and interesting territory.

  • '19

    yeah, part of it is I have nothing invested in the game at this point so I lose nothing by conceding. The second part is rage for rushing the turn after the disaster. For instance, I could have flown the pacific air to 81 but just wasnt thinking straight at the time.

    I also hate relying or playing with the desire for luck…

    Andrew will let you me withdraw my concession?


  • @ksmckay said in L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3:

    Andrew will let you me withdraw my concession?

    Of Course! Until Gamerman01 records it it is not official. PLAY ON!!!

  • '19

    Going to try something new. Gonna take me a day or so to think it through.

  • 2007 AAR League

    I’d say this is a medium setback. You can lose 50 IPCs and come back. You can even lose 100 IPCs and come back. There are at least two possible 21 IPC swings on the first turn (sub attacks destroyer and transport - SZ 106 and SZ 62)

    UK also did well on the attack on the German battleship (zero losses).

    And having an airbase in Egypt is pretty useful.

  • '19

    Didnt say I couldnt. Doesnt mean its a game I feel like playing. But I will anyway.

    Its a heck of a lot more than 50 ipcs but I wont get into an argument over it.


  • @ksmckay Curious - how many IPC do you count the loss as? I see you losing two planes (21 loss) instead of an expected loss of perhaps 3/4 of a plane (7-8 IPCs) – for a loss of 14 IPCs. You gaining 2/3 of a plane on the UK battleship fight (7 IPC gain).

    Your opponent gaining a destroyer and a transport (15 IPC gain). For a total loss to you of 22 IPCs.

    Maybe an additional 5-10 IPC loss for the placement of the airbase.

  • 2007 AAR League

    Oops you did lose a fighter on the battleship fight. So that is another +3 vs odds and you did lose a destroyer on the fight vs the subs. But still I’d say a loss of around 36 IPCs.

  • '19

    TripleA Turn Summary: French round 1

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  ANZAC take Java from Dutch
            1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
                  ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to Sumatra
            2 aaGuns moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
    
        Non Combat Move - French
    
        Turn Complete - French
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iceland: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame

  • '19

    you used the wrong UK file so I edited that to the correct file.


  • @ksmckay said in L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3:

    you used the wrong UK file so I edited that to the correct file.

    Oops Sorry. I did not realize there was more than one file. Thank you for correcting it!

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 2

    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour and 12 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
    

    Savegame

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    Scramble SZ110?

  • '19

    No thanks

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21 '20

    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour and 12 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
            6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany
            2 armour moved from Western Germany to Poland
            6 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            2 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            2 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            2 bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            3 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            5 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 0.33
    French : -0.67
    

    Savegame

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