Re: G4015L ShinJi(Allies +14) v Karl7(Axis) Part2

[Shin-Ji]

By the way, feel free to do Russia for me.  Just move my three remaining people to Siberia, Sakha, and Buryatia.

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery moved from Rostov to Caucasus
                  Germans take Caucasus from Russians
            1 armour moved from Russia to Samara
                  Germans take Samara from Russians
            1 armour moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
                  Germans take Novosibirsk from Russians
            2 armour moved from Tambov to Volgograd
                  Germans take Volgograd from Russians

Combat - Germans

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 bombers moved from Russia to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Western Germany
            4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Sweden to 113 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Sweden to 114 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            3 aaGuns moved from Tambov to Volgograd
            3 armour moved from Russia to Volgograd
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
            3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy

Place Units - Germans
            5 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Romania
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
            Germans undo move 3.
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
            3 armour placed in Germany
            2 destroyers placed in 113 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4
            Germans collect 76 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 76 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 101 PUs

[Shin-Ji]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
                  Russians take Buryatia from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha
                  Russians take Sakha from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Siberia
                  Russians take Siberia from Japanese

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians

Turn Complete - Russians

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 4 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 24 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
            2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from India to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Japan to 16 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan
            1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to Turkmenistan
                  Japanese take Turkmenistan from Russians
            1 armour moved from Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan
            3 armour moved from Eastern Persia to Kazakhstan
            4 infantry moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan
            2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Tambov to Volgograd

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Philippines
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 armour; Americans defend with 1 airfield and 1 harbour
                Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 armour
            Battle in 36 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Midway
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Kazakhstan
                Japanese attack with 5 armour and 4 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 5 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Korea
            Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            4 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            5 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            5 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            3 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Yakut S.S.R.
            12 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Turkmenistan
            6 armour moved from India to Afghanistan
            1 bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Formosa

Place Units - Japanese
            3 infantry placed in India
            1 infantry placed in Japan
            2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 31 PUs

[Shin-Ji]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 5 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to France
                  French take France from Germans
                  French take French Indo China from ANZAC
                  French take Southern France from Americans
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Spain to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Spain to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 fighters moved from Spain to Northern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Spain to Northern Italy
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 factory_major and 2 infantry
                Americans converts factory_major into different units
                Americans win, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                Italians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Trigger French 1 Liberation By Americans: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_1_Can_Be_Liberated_Switch attached to French
            Trigger French 1 Liberation By Americans: French has 4 infantry placed in France

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 5 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            9 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            4 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            4 aaGuns, 3 artilleries, 9 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 9 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Southeast Mexico to Spain
            5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            4 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 17 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            6 artilleries moved from Southern France to Spain
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Spain
            3 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Spain

Place Units - Americans
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Spain
            5 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Eastern United States
            5 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 56 PUs; end with 57 PUs total
            Trigger Americans 5 Presence In France: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 82 PUs

[Shin-Ji]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Jehol
            5 infantry placed in Burma

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs total

[Shin-Ji]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Combat Move - British
            3 armour and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery and 11 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 11 infantry and 6 transports moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            16 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            3 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France

Non Combat Move - British

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to France
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to France
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to France

Combat - Italians
            Battle in France
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 8 infantry
                French defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry; Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Italians captures 0PUs while taking French capital
                Italians win, taking France from French with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for French: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                retreated to Northern Italy
                Americans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            2 fighters moved from France to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6
            Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs total

[Karl7]

I think that is it…. Italy took back France and you cannot take it back as far as I can see.

[Karl7]

Yeah, I think I am secure for the 8 VCs at the end of the round.

That was CLOSE!

One more round and I doubt I could have held Italy from a USA smash.  Or maybe even the UK proper.

[Shin-Ji]

Italy took back France?  Oh shoot!  I completely forgot to account for that!

Doubt I could have stopped you anyway, though.

Wow, good game.

[Shin-Ji]

But hang on, don’t you have to hold the same 8 for a full round to win?

[Karl7]

@Shin:

But hang on, don’t you have to hold the same 8 for a full round to win?

Hmmm… my understanding (and tripple a’s understanding) is just that I have to have 8 at the end of a round. But I just looked at the rules and it says “for a round”… so, I will check the FAQ.

[Karl7]

@Karl7:

@Shin:

But hang on, don’t you have to hold the same 8 for a full round to win?

Hmmm… my understanding (and tripple a’s understanding) is just that I have to have 8 at the end of a round. But I just looked at the rules and it says “for a round”… so, I will check the FAQ.

Ok, after looking into this I think you may be right and Tripple A is wrong. Tripple A declares victory at the end of the round if you hold 8, while the rules say hold for a complete round. So I got the 8 on Germany, but you took back france on US, which I then took back on Italy, so the condition would only work if I held the 8 until Italy’s next turn…. sigh…

I put in a message to the league to make sure this right.

If so, I have a request: could I redo Italy?

If I knew the rule was I had to hold 8 continuously instead of just to the end of the round, it would make no sense to take France with Italy and forgo Germany getting France’s money.

[Karl7]

If you allow an Italy redo, we could then just keep playing.  If my original interpretation/tripple a’s interpretation is right (and I don’t think it is) then I would win anyway.

But if the rule says what I think it says, then you taking France has reset the condition and we need to keep going.

[Shin-Ji]

Yea, I’m fine with an Italy redo.  It’s one thing to completely miss obvious options on the board (as I did not factoring in the Italian forces in W Germany), and it’s another to be confused by an admittedly confusing rule.

[Karl7]

Ok, cool.  Well, now the advantage has swung in your direction!

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 2 artilleries, 3 fighters and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            3 fighters moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2
            Italians collect 7 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs total

[Shin-Ji]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 armour, 3 fighters and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            8 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
                  ANZAC take Shan State from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Siam
                  ANZAC take Siam from Japanese
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Szechwan
            2 artilleries, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 79 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Midway
                ANZAC attack with 8 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                ANZAC win with 8 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            8 fighters moved from Midway to 26 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Queensland to 26 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            3 fighters placed in Queensland
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs

[Shin-Ji]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 15

Combat Move - French
            4 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
            4 infantry moved from France to Southern France

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French
            French collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs total