G40L Infrastructure vs JuanSpain(Allies+9)

[Major Major]

scramble all

[JuanSpain]

??? :roll:

[Major Major]

ok, whats going on? :?

[JuanSpain]

Your turn with Germany right?

[JuanSpain]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

Combat - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[JuanSpain]

Apologies!!  :-D I wanted to do it as NCM and thought that was what I posted, I was not understanding your scramble all arder as I did not ask, sorry.

Germany.

Cheers

Juan

[Major Major]

my bad. i didn’t notice it was ncm!
sorry.

:roll:

[Major Major]

actually im not sure you can do that? 
In the non-combat move section of the rules it say, “a sea unit can move through any friendly sea zone.  it cant move into or through a hostile sea zone.”  it goes on to discuss the submarine exception, but that is all.

i will be gone for most of the day and evening, if you want to verify with gamerman you should!

[JuanSpain]

Ok, lets  check, given it is only a sub I am not sure.

Cheers

Juan

[gamerman01]

Hi guys!  Hope you’re having a fun game.

Technically, it is illegal to move ANY non-combat moves during the combat movement phase, however, it is common practice for players to do so, and as it normally only handicaps that moving player, it is not normally enforced.
However, had that rule been followed here, you would not have any confusion.

That said, the movement to Z97 by the Allies was not a combat move, because the Italian sub was being ignored.  There was no possible scramble opportunity.  The confusion arises as JuanSpain posted the combat movement, and Infrastructure saw that and guessed the reason was to wait for a scramble decision.

JuanSpain clearly only intended to noncombat move all these units to Z97, and while he technically should have done so only in the non-combat movement phase (not to mention the infantry he was moving around), I think it is clear that he should be able to make this move with no problem, and with no scramble opportunity.

This is only possible because the only Axis ship in Z97 is a submarine and thus it is not a hostile sea zone (takes a surface warship to be hostile) and can be ignored.

Happy gaming!

[Major Major]

Thanks gamer man. 
Unfortunately I am out of town until late tomorrow.  See you then!

[JuanSpain]

Thank you Gamerman, it is very kind of you spending so much time helping us having fun games and knowing more about the rules.

Let´s keep going Infraestructure!!!

Thanks again.

Juan

[Major Major]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 2

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 infantry and 9 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 104 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

[Major Major]

any scramble anywhere?
carrier last again in 97?

[JuanSpain]

no scramble thx,

yes, carrier last.

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 2

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 infantry and 9 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 104 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the British , 1 battleship owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Battle in Scotland
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 3 armour and 6 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 6 infantry in Greece, round 2 :  4/9 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  2/6 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French , 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Normandy Bordeaux: 1 mech_infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers; Italians loiter and taunt with
                French defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; British defend with 1 carrier and 1 fighter
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 :  5/8 hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                    French roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the French , 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans , 1 fighter owned by the British , 1 fighter owned by the French , 1 destroyer owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 :  3/6 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 carrier in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 carrier owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 1 fighter

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            6 armour and 2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
            7 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Greater Southern Germany
            2 artilleries moved from Yugoslavia to Greater Southern Germany
            5 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 104 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            4 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone
            5 transports placed in 113 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs

[Major Major]

please hold on. i have an ncm change to make.

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 2

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 infantry and 9 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 104 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Battle in Scotland
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 3 armour and 6 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Normandy Bordeaux: 1 mech_infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers; Italians loiter and taunt with
                French defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; British defend with 1 carrier and 1 fighter
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 1 fighter

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            6 armour and 2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
            7 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Greater Southern Germany
            2 artilleries moved from Yugoslavia to Greater Southern Germany
            5 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 104 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            4 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone
            5 transports placed in 113 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 112 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 113 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 112 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 113 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[JuanSpain]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            8 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            7 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            6 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 fighters moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Caucasus
            3 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            14 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
            2 aaGuns moved from Buryatia to Amur
            2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
            2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha
            1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs total

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
                  Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  2/7 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Siam
            2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Siam
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Siam
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 armour moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
            3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            3 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            3 aaGuns moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to 5 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea

Place Units - Japanese
            1 harbour placed in Hainan
            1 factory_minor placed in Manchuria
            1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 45 PUs