ABH and Crockett36, (A+100) tutor game


  • @crockett36 I suggest 3 CVs in Pacific since 1 moved to the Atlantic already. Don’t need but 1 in Atlantic. The Germans don’t have a fleet to worry us yet. The British can buy a second when we are ready to invade Europe.

    Since we lost the Gibraltar battle, there is no way to prevent the counter attack. Not sure whether @Arthur-Bomber-Harris is happy with the battle as stands. Probably is since his counter will eliminate the US forces and ensure Gibraltar stands for awhile.

    For China, I would not send an art against Kweichow. It was hard enough to get it, we want to save them to trade for more than just one guy.
    I would be happy with just sending 1 inf + 1 ftr against Kweichow and taking Yunnan of course. Put everyone in Szechwan, then J should not be able to reinforce Yunnan without losing it (11 inf + 5 art + 1 tank + 1 mech vs 20 inf + 3 art + 1 ftr, 80-20 battle). Every turn we can get the Chinese NO is a win.

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    Actually, better move. Kill Kweichow 1 guy + air and move all in on Yunnan. Bring back Russian forces + 1 Brit inf +all air and AAA. Japan has a 15-85 battle that would decimate him.


  • @surfer I am quite happy that Gibraltar remains in Axis hands for another turn or two. Not having to guard against invasion of W Europe for more time is a huge boost for the Axis. I also like the Italian bonus.

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  • @crockett36 Eh…I made a mistake. I only counted the land aircraft in the battle, but he has 6 more with the fleet that can attack Yunnan. He would win the battle against our stack–eliminating our Russian air advantage. I still like our combat move, and just adjust by reinforcing Szechwan.

    It also simplifies placing the Chinese fig in Szechwan. Burma will be hard to hold.

    Still like the UK moves
    Buy 2 trans + airbase + 2 IPCs
    Buy 5 inf + 1 art

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    I suggest we adjust the US NCM in Hawaii. The transport should not be there alone. Put it with the rest of the fleet. Hawaii is in no danger this round.


  • @surfer said in ABH and Crockett36, (A+100) tutor game:

    @crockett36 I suggest 3 CVs in Pacific since 1 moved to the Atlantic already. Don’t need but 1 in Atlantic. The Germans don’t have a fleet to worry us yet. The British can buy a second when we are ready to invade Europe.

    Since we lost the Gibraltar battle, there is no way to prevent the counter attack. Not sure whether @Arthur-Bomber-Harris is happy with the battle as stands. Probably is since his counter will eliminate the US forces and ensure Gibraltar stands for awhile.

    For China, I would not send an art against Kweichow. It was hard enough to get it, we want to save them to trade for more than just one guy.
    I would be happy with just sending 1 inf + 1 ftr against Kweichow and taking Yunnan of course. Put everyone in Szechwan, then J should not be able to reinforce Yunnan without losing it (11 inf + 5 art + 1 tank + 1 mech vs 20 inf + 3 art + 1 ftr, 80-20 battle). Every turn we can get the Chinese NO is a win.

    I couldn’t put 3 carriers in the Pac. One carrier is not going to face a navy but an air force based in Gibraltar. So I need beef to my navy or he’s going to own that for a long time. And I still don’t have a strat for the Pac beyond harass and possibly grab a money island. Again that is a black hole. I don’t mind an arms race but US will only have a 10 ipc advantage while he owns a money making machine.

    In other words, the Pac navy will save Sidney & Hawaii and threaten recapture of Phil & Java. That strat needs about 30 ipc every turn. a carrier, destroyer and sub. two figs and a transport and infantry every other.

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    In this scheme, we give the Germans a choice. I don’t think Italy can take either out. Ergo Germany must choose. Italy loses its bonus. Germany loses some planes.


  • @crockett36 said in ABH and Crockett36, (A+100) tutor game:

    In this scheme, we give the Germans a choice. I don’t think Italy can take either out. Ergo Germany must choose. Italy loses its bonus. Germany loses some planes.

    You are correct that Italy is not going to win vs either fleet. The question is whether Italy, knowing its dying, is going to use the fleet on offense before a potential med merge, or just accept it. Because the Germans will certainly kill what is left if Italy attacks the Med fleet.

    I would probably accept the situation and lose the bonus. But thats just me.


  • @squirecam thanks for the input

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    Btw peeps, I am convinced that helping the British isles is not the way to go with a bid. Expensive and not enough bang for your buck. The Germans do so well t1 that they are just as able to kill a fleet t2.


  • @crockett36. Having 1 fighter in Scotland is usually sufficient to preserve a UK fleet group. An additional sub to sink the Italian fleet on UK1 is also a big reward on investment. After that, I like ground units to clean up Africa, and units in Asia to slow down the Japanese.

    In this UK turn, double check your calculations on the fleet next to Gibraltar. It can be hit be a big German air strike and obliterated. Make sure the sacrifice is not in vain if you do leave the ships there.

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    I don’t see the need to sacrifice fleets for planes at this point. The fleet at the mouth of Gibraltar is the most important kill for Germany/Italy. It keeps the US out of the Med, because even with 2 CVs (I see your point on needing the second), without the other units they can be sunk and now we are down 2 fleets.

    We tried for Gibraltar. Lost. So just regroup. Putting all the ships at the mouth is just doubling down with bad money.

    Egypt. IDK. Perhaps the naval buy will see us through. I hate 50-50, 70-30 battles–that have large implications on outcome.
    I would buy 1 trans vice 1 SS (we have an extra $1). That will help with putting pressure on Gibraltar.

    I wouldn’t take Tobruk. We don’t need it. It’s worthless, and lets the Italians kill a guy on a turn where we aren’t buying land units.
    I would send a guy to Italian Somaliland. Prevents any landing spots for Axis Med air.
    Why did transport goto SZ72. If anything, continue to S. Africa so we can shuttle guys north.
    Why not have tank attack Iraq? Could also bring tac and land in TJ. We’ll have enough guys to cover TJ from bomber attack, if that was tried.

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    4.2.22brit2nddraft.tsvg

    On the one hand this strategy goes right at supremacy of the Med and makes him engage in an arms race there or a battle in which he is only the slight favorite. Meanwhile his casualties are air and my two fleets are waiting in the wings.

    On the other hand, it does nothing about Gibraltar. I still like it better than buying two transports and fretting over G. If he commits to G further, Russia must make him pay. Or the British in the North Sea. And obviously the Americans will gladly exchange cannon balls, infantry and artillery for figs.

    Btw, I couldn’t edit the Chinese fig out of Burma. You did want to post up in SZech, right?

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    Oh the air base is going into TJ.

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    btw, ABH! Was Gibraltar an oversight or unavoidable? Killing The transport off S America was quite a feat. I hate you. Good play.


  • @crockett36 you should have been able to hold on to Gibraltar the first turn if the UK had flown some planes there and/or put some ground troops on it with a transport. Perhaps even build an airbase to make the amphibious landing difficult to support for Italy.

    I have also seen many top players choose to station their Med fleet next to Gibraltar on UK1 instead of attacking one of the main Italian fleets. Italy is left with a big combined fleet but can’t leave port as it gets sunk without having airbase protection. Eventually the Italian Navy gets crushed in the mid-game as Allied air power becomes overwhelming.

    If you hadn’t opted to attack Gibraltar on US2, I would have generally abandoned the defense on G3 as it would have been very costly to have held on for another turn. I don’t think, though, that I now can pass up the opportunity to sink that transport and cruiser, and give another round of Italian bonus.


  • @crockett36 Maybe if this was the mid-game, you could talk about “Russia making him pay”, but this is round 2. We have to hold out until the Allies (US) can fully mobilize and really push. The UK Atlantic fleet is cruisers and battleship–good for amphib assaults, not so go at defending against air, but can support the US CVs. Don’t sacrifice them now. We can use them with UK transports to get free hits against the Axis. We want a meat grinder and those are good unit for that.

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