@VictoryFirst it must be the submarine. if i lose the transport, the submarine is automatically destroyed unless you retreat
bm3 oysteilo L+18 vs aagamerz13 game 1
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@aagamerz13 scramble?
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@oysteilo 1 hit ool?
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@aagamerz13 said in bm3 oysteilo L+18 vs aagamerz13 game 1:
@oysteilo 1 hit ool?
in future nice if you post the file
1 hit total or a sub hit? If one hit total (no sub hit) lose a cruiser. If sub hit, hit carrier
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Southern France 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone Combat - Italians British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone Battle in Algeria Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Algeria Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 92 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.67 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -1.00 Italians regular : -0.33 -
@oysteilo just posted 1 hit total. no sub hit
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@aagamerz13 cruiser down
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Southern France 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone Combat - Italians British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone Battle in Algeria Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Algeria Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 92 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier and 2 cruisers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber and 1 cruiser in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 cruiser in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British British roll dice for 1 carrier in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier in 92 Sea Zone, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone British and Italians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -26 Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 2 cruisers Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British forced to land in Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary 1 armour moved from Albania to Romania 1 fighter moved from Southern France to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Slovakia Hungary 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to France Place Units - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from France: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 aaGun EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4 Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -1.00 Italians regular : -0.83 British regular : -1.50 -
@aagamerz13 assumed cruiser be fore plane for next hit. but can take plane instead if needed.
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@aagamerz13 if you prefer plane, the sub hit so either a hit on carrier or cruiser lost. then use existing rolls. This was a fight to the end for italy to soften fleet for germany.
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@aagamerz13 said in bm3 oysteilo L+18 vs aagamerz13 game 1:
@aagamerz13 if you prefer plane, the sub hit so either a hit on carrier or cruiser lost. then use existing rolls. This was a fight to the end for italy to soften fleet for germany.
you know at the point where I have 1 carrier and 1 cruiser left, you choose to kill my sencond cruiser. Why would I do this? I think here I should hit the carrier, then in the next round your sub hits and now you select my carrier (hit one to carrier) The reminder of the battle you have no given me a dice at 2 instead of a dice of 3. This is problematic!
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@oysteilo so you prefer to lose the tac or a fighter instead of cruiser?
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@aagamerz13 you want the one second round hit to carrier and not lose cruiser, then on round 3 sub hit sinks carrier, the carrier rolls against sub were 5, 3, and 4 in the log, so cruiser lives while sub and carrier are sunk. Check the history to verify. I’ll edit it.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Southern France 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone Combat - Italians British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone Battle in Algeria Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Algeria Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 92 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier and 2 cruisers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber and 1 cruiser in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 cruiser in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British British roll dice for 1 carrier in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier in 92 Sea Zone, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone British and Italians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -26 Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 2 cruisers Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British forced to land in Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary 1 armour moved from Albania to Romania 1 fighter moved from Southern France to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Slovakia Hungary 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to France Place Units - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from France: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 aaGun EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4 Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 92 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 92 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -1.00 Italians regular : -0.83 British regular : -1.50 -
@aagamerz13 said in bm3 oysteilo L+18 vs aagamerz13 game 1:
@aagamerz13 you want the one second round hit to carrier and not lose cruiser, then on round 3 sub hit sinks carrier, the carrier rolls against sub were 5, 3, and 4 in the log, so cruiser lives while sub and carrier are sunk. Check the history to verify. I’ll edit it.
You got it! Exactely my point.
The reason i chose cruiser in round 1 is, in case you retreat. In later rounds this is no longer a concern
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Combat - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java ANZAC take Java from Dutch 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java 2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Java 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 fighter placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Politics - French Trigger French Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa 1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@oysteilo scramble?
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 4 armour, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia Germans take Bessarabia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 3 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Gibraltar 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from France to Yugoslavia 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Yugoslavia Combat - GermansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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