Gamer (allies +11) vs. Bold - game 2 of 2

[gamerman01]

Lose 2 destroyers

[boldfresh]

you hit back twice - lose the fighter obviously

[gamerman01]

Obviously
Gonna be gone a couple hours - ANZAC after that

[boldfresh]

accidentally hit done again

[Veqryn]

@Gamerman01:

I’m using version 1.8.0.3

Java 7 update 55 (I just downloaded the current 60 since you brought this issue up)

I think we can tell from all the moves we’ve made, without testing it out by PBEM against ourselves.  It seems to grow more with my moves than with his.

Bold, to see your Java version, go to control panels, uninstall programs and look at the list, for Java

Veq, as you can see our file size has already ballooned to over 1,000 in 3 1/2 rounds since re-setting up the map.  I’m starting to notice sizeable delays already.  Maybe my updated Java will improve it???  Thank you

Java allows you to have multiple versions of java installed on your system at the same time.

So please first make sure you don’t have multiple versions installed.

Second, I would like you to test the following:

With whatever version you have running (i assume java 7 update 55 or update 60), please play a pbem game against yourself a minimum of 2 full rounds, and hold onto the save at the end.

Now, uninstall Java, and go download a different update version of Java.  So for example, go download Java version 7 update 15 from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase7-521261.html
And then run the exact same test, playing a pbem game against yourself a minimum of 2 rounds, and hold onto the save at the end.

The compare the file size.

I suspect that the issue is either with your computer, or with the Java you have installed on your computer.

It clearly doesn’t have to do with TripleA, because you and bold seem to be making files with different sizes.  TripleA just tells Java to create a serialized object, and then compress it using gzip, and those are processes that are entirely up to java and your computer, not triplea.

[boldfresh]

gonna edit that italy move i think.

[gamerman01]

@Veqryn:

Java allows you to have multiple versions of java installed on your system at the same time.

So please first make sure you don’t have multiple versions installed.

Second, I would like you to test the following:

With whatever version you have running (i assume java 7 update 55 or update 60), please play a pbem game against yourself a minimum of 2 full rounds, and hold onto the save at the end.

Now, uninstall Java, and go download a different update version of Java.  So for example, go download Java version 7 update 15 from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase7-521261.html
And then run the exact same test, playing a pbem game against yourself a minimum of 2 rounds, and hold onto the save at the end.

The compare the file size.

I suspect that the issue is either with your computer, or with the Java you have installed on your computer.

It clearly doesn’t have to do with TripleA, because you and bold seem to be making files with different sizes.  TripleA just tells Java to create a serialized object, and then compress it using gzip, and those are processes that are entirely up to java and your computer, not triplea.

Awesome, thanks.  Java 7 55 was the only one on my computer and now Java 7 60 is the only one.
I will simulate a game against myself for a couple rounds and see what happens.  Then I will do it with the version of Java you provided the link for.

[gamerman01]

I’m testing, and using your e-mail since it has to have been registered and I don’t have two.
So there will be a lot of meaningless test dice e-mail to your hotmail account

[boldfresh]

Ok.  Also I don’t think I’m going to edit italy.  Go ahead.

[gamerman01]

Playing out 2 rounds of play is no small task.

Boldfresh discovered 2 versions of Java on his computer and has uninstalled one.  I think he’s installing 7 60 too.  We’ll see if that fixes it.

[boldfresh]

it’s probably my computer - i’ve had serious problems with tripleA bogging down, crashing, etc.  anyway, hopefully the new update is the answer!

Thanks veq!

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 bomber moved from Rostov to Morocco
            1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 49 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 artillery moved from Western Australia to South Australia
            3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Australia to Queensland
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from Rostov to 81 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from India to Northwest Persia

Place Units - ANZAC
            3 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 12 PUs; end with 14 PUs total

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French
            COMMENT: 2 FR INF on ANZ transport

[gamerman01]

Oops - 1 minute - I forgot the fighter in 92 and have to decide what to do with it

[gamerman01]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French
            COMMENT: 2 FR INF on ANZ transport
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 92 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 104 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 81 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Russia: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Northwest Persia: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Rostov: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[gamerman01]

SSS
Felt a little rushed

You’re good to go

[boldfresh]

French inf on ANZ trn.  That’s a new one.

[gamerman01]

Yes.  And quite effective, once I thought about it a second

[boldfresh]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 15 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 bomber moved from Iraq to Bessarabia
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 70 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
            10 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 15 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 bomber moved from Iraq to Bessarabia
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 70 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
            10 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 4 fighters
                ANZAC defend with 1 fighter; British defend with 1 carrier
                Germans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Germans: 2 fighters
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier
            Battle in 70 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 destroyers and 10 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters; Americans defend with 1 fighter
                2 destroyers owned by the Germans and 6 submarines owned by the Germans retreated to 112 Sea Zone
                British win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 4 submarines
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 destroyer
            Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
            Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
            Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom

Non Combat Move - Germans
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            4 armour and 14 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            10 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            5 aaGuns, 1 armour, 9 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
            1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
            2 submarines moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 70 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Trans-Jordan
            3 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Trans-Jordan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Romania

Place Units - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 112 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 95 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            5 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Holland Belgium: 3 artilleries and 9 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 3 artilleries and 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 6 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Normandy Bordeaux: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 95 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4
            Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs