• '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Yes, I didn’t know Mussolini was a sharpshooter, and that Hitler patterned his reign, like Mussolini. I didn’t know about the hail mary, either, but the Mexican deal, backfired. Churchill, definitely had an interesting life. Great start to the series so far.


  • Well they began saying October 1914, then somehow there is some gas attack and somehow their are gasmasks. Not accurate.

    Then latter they have another gas attack and claim “its a secret weapon” and somehow they defend with gas masks.

    It could not be a secret weapon if the defenders have the remedy for it. That trick only happened when they first used gas and no masks were available.

    The actor playing young Hitler sucked, The actor playing young Patton sucked, The older versions might be better.


  • I’m disappointed in the series. But I love WW1 history and expect more.

    Creating the story that Patton broke open the Western Front is just misleading. The Battle of Cambrai was fought a year earlier. In which hundreds of tanks in mass broke the Western Front for a short time.

    No mention was made of the German 1918 do or die “Peace Offense”.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Well, I’m glad you both pointed out the mistakes. It is better to know the real truth, than not. Thanks for your comments. :-)

  • '13

    The first episode was ok, however like others have pointed out, it has it’s problems.

    The Russian Revolution was portrayed poorly and completely skipped over the civil war. The show makes it seem like it was easy, that lenin just stormed the palace and took power and that was that.

    However, there was a real power struggle that threatened it. While the white forces were not as united as the red, they were still a large hurtle that the Boshleviks had to get over to remain in power. There was also foreign intervention from the allied powers to try to kick Lenin out and keep Russia in the war.

    Ill watch the second episode tomorrow since i watched the first one while the second was running.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Quintus:

    The first episode was ok, however like others have pointed out, it has it’s problems.

    The Russian Revolution was portrayed poorly and completely skipped over the civil war. The show makes it seem like it was easy, that lenin just stormed the palace and took power and that was that.

    However, there was a real power struggle that threatened it. While the white forces were not as united as the red, they were still a large hurtle that the Boshleviks had to get over to remain in power. There was also foreign intervention from the allied powers to try to kick Lenin out and keep Russia in the war.

    Ill watch the second episode tomorrow since i watched the first one while the second was running.

    I won’t be able to watch the rest of this series till this weekend, so I won’t be reading this thread till probably Monday. Thanks for your contribution to this thread as well, Quintus. :-)

    John


  • I think P.O.U. has to be kept in mind.  A 6 hour series can’t contain all of the information. I feel it’s fine to gloss over things, especially if your target audience is people who know little about it.

    That said, they probably should have tightened up that gas attack bit.

    I enjoyed episode 2 and am excited for part 3 tomorrow.


  • I have only seen episode one, will watch the next two later this week.

    It being the 100th anniversary of WWI I thought more details should have been given to the War. It was so much more than trenches.


  • Now in part two they ripped off scenes from Conspiracy and Valkyrie repeatedly. Nice way to save money i guess.

    The older Hitler has great eyes, and nose, but terrible skin and chin. Why can’t they use the guy who played in Valkyrie? Shoestring budget?

    This is nothing but a broad stroke of summary History with nothing new or interesting except commentary by relevant American politicians. The BBC Documentary on The War was a hundred times better.

  • '13

    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    I think P.O.U. has to be kept in mind.  A 6 hour series can’t contain all of the information. I feel it’s fine to gloss over things, especially if your target audience is people who know little about it.

    That said, they probably should have tightened up that gas attack bit.

    I enjoyed episode 2 and am excited for part 3 tomorrow.

    Well i thought they would have put the civil war in since they showed the the grab for power from Hitler and Mussolini. IMO it would be far more interesting and develop the russian side of the story, which as of the first movie has barely been talked about at all.

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    Saw the first episode, it was decent, but as some have pointed out, there were glaring issues. I facepalmed hard when Patton was aiming his Enfield rifle…in Mexico…

    I also thought the Batman-esque “origin story” for Hitler’s mustache was a bit comical.

    Overall an interesting series though. It’s good to see the History Channel showing actual history, as opposed to Pawn Stars and Mysteries of the Bible  :roll:


  • @ossel:

    Saw the first episode, it was decent, but as some have pointed out, there were glaring issues. I facepalmed hard when Patton was aiming his Enfield rifle…in Mexico…

    I also thought the Batman-esque “origin story” for Hitler’s mustache was a bit comical.

    Overall an interesting series though. It’s good to see the History Channel showing actual history, as opposed to Pawn Stars and Mysteries of the Bible�  :roll:

    Patton riding on a Stewart tank.

    Did I see a T-55 or 62 in a German Panzer division?


  • Oh yea Hitler only got that mustache in the first place because a young German girl wrote him a letter early in his political career saying he would be handsome. He didn’t freaking cut it because his gasmask didn’t fit in 1917 wtf.


  • @Imperious:

    Oh yea Hitler only got that mustache in the first place because a young German girl wrote him a letter early in his political career saying he would be handsome. He didn’t freaking cut it because his gasmask didn’t fit in 1917 wtf.

    He was attempting to comply with OSHA regulations.

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    No mention of this, then?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBxg_rPquFo

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    Guys,

    ––While I generally enjoyed the series I must say that on the whole, I’m Quite Disappointed!
    ––While the use of ‘stock’ footage might simply be an outgrowth of their lack of budget,…their are literally thousands of feet of footage of the CORRECT unit that they are discussing. Like when they showed P-47 Thunderbolt footage when discussing P-51 Mustangs, etc., etc. For such an exalted and experienced network like the “History Channel” to do this is simply BAD.
    ----Even worse that that are the numerous INCORRECT FACTS that were spoken. This is unforgivable as this is where people are supposed to be educated as to what really happened. For example, when they were talking about the “Battle of Midway” they attributed the sinking of all four of the Japanese carriers to the U.S. torpedo planes!,….and that ALL FOUR of the carriers were sunk within six minutes! First off, as all of you should already know the torpedo planes were completely shredded by they Japanese and NOT A SINGLE HIT was made by any of them. The Dive Bombers were the ones that made the kills. And further more, the fourth carrier, the Hiryu was hidden under cloud cover and wasn’t attacked and sunk until the second American strike.
    ––Also, many other production “GOOFS” that they had total control over were seemingly everywhere. Like when MacArthur was introduced he was a 5-star General, a rank that didn’t even exist until years later. And it also said “Mac” was sent to the Philippines which is incorrect. He was already there employed by the Phillippine government to train their army.
    ----I’m not trying to “nitpic” here,…but there were literally a hundred or so things wrong with this series. There are almost always mistakes in anything,…but to get MAJOR FACTS wrong, and thereby mislead people in what actually happened is something that a network like The History Channel should be correcting from others,…not making their own.
    ----Sad to say, but on the whole, I was disappointed big-time! Anyone who reads military history like I do, which I’d suspect to be most of you, should be too.

    Tall Paul


  • History Channel is a joke.

    This production is revisionist history on a high school level.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    It is unfortunate, but I found several mistakes as well on this last episode. I really wanted this to be a good series, but unfortunately, it isn’t. I hope the history channel doesn’t mess up the upcoming D day special. That would be tragic.

    I guess I will have stick with World War 2 in Colour. That is by far my favorite series.


  • I thought the series was going to discuss the delay in the German advance on Moscow by encircling Kiev, now they have the Germans attacking Stalingrad.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @ABWorsham:

    I thought the series was going to discuss the delay in the German advance on Moscow by encircling Kiev, now they have the Germans attacking Stalingrad.

    Yes, I hated how they handled the whole Eastern front. It was just a disappointing series altogether. :-(

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