G4013LKarl7(Axis)v.MrYogen(Allies+10) Rematch

[Karl7]

battle in carolines –

I got 1 sub hit, you none,

I then got 11 hits.

OOL?

[mryogen]

3 carriers
1 hit on battle
2 subs
2 destroyers

Should be interesting to see how bad I roll in this battle…  :lol:

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 2 destroyers, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 22 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 22 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 55 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
                  Japanese take Yunnan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
                  Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
                  Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Evenkiyskiy to Urals
                  Japanese take Urals from Russians
            1 armour moved from Urals to Timguska
            1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 33 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 2 bombers, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese
                Japanese win with 2 battleships, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 125
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 5 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for Americans: 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
            Battle in Alaska
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in Java
            Battle in Timguska
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Alaska from Americans, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Java from ANZAC, taking Timguska from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 aaGun moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
            4 armour moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            3 armour moved from Kiangsu to Hunan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            2 bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 armour moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
            2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
            1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Philippines

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            2 destroyers and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 66 PUs; end with 66 PUs total

[Karl7]

FYI, after first round I just took your units per combat value.  I killed my subs round 1, so you were not exposed to a auto kill.

[mryogen]

How nice of you, but you forgot to mention how lucky you got again in that battle…

I want a re roll and this time show the dice rolls.

[Karl7]

didn’t you get the marti results?

[mryogen]

Yes but it gives a string of numbers not actually rolls per unit.

[Karl7]

The rolls are in order as stated in the result – confusing I know…

as for reroll, you want to do the battle over?  :?

[mryogen]

Yes and I want to pick my OOL pre round.  That battle is the most important battle of the game.

[Karl7]

hmm, beside the first round, for which you provide an OOL, it would have made no difference.

We both lost all out subs R1, so after that I just kept your strongest units fighting.  Would you have chosen weaker units over stronger?

So, I am not sure what the issue is.  If you want we can get a ruling by the moderator Cmd. Jen?

[Karl7]

Also, if want to confirm what I say, pull up the map and go to the game history option.  I should show you blow by blow what happened.

[mryogen]

Sure get a ruling and why pull up the map and goto the game history when you can click 1 box to show dice/battles

[Karl7]

Just so I am clear, you want a reroll for the entire battle on the basis that I did not ask for an OOL on R2 and after?

Or just reroll after R1?

Did you have a reason why you would have wanted an OOL after R2 other than to chose weaker defenders over stronger?

I just want to be clear and specific so Cmd. Jen knows what I asking for.

[mryogen]

Yes I have a reason why I wanted a different OOL and I have the right to choose my own OOL.

[Karl7]

for the whole battle?

[Karl7]

I’ll post the request on the AAG40 League forum so you can see it and then PM Cmd Jen that it’s there.

[mryogen]

2nd round on will be a different OOL.

[Karl7]

oh, ok.  I corrected it.

[Karl7]

I am glad we are pushing this issue to a ruling, because what I did, players do all the time – i.e. finish off a battle just assuming the strongest units defend.  We’ll see if results in a correction.

[mryogen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 5 destroyers, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 4 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 93 Sea Zone from Italians
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 6 destroyers, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
            1 mech_infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
            1 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
            1 mech_infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 2 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 6 destroyers and 2 transports
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 2 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 2 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 6 destroyers and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Alaska
                Americans attack with 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Alaska, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Alaska, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Alaska
                Americans win, taking Alaska from Japanese with 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Southern France

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales

Place Units - Americans
            3 artilleries placed in Eastern United States
            1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    New South Wales : 1 bomber and 1 fighter
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Alaska : 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Midway : 1 airfield
    2 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 battleship, 6 destroyers and 2 transports
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Gibraltar : 1 mech_infantry
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    93 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 battleship, 5 destroyers and 4 transports
    101 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 3 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 49 / 61
    Russians : 17 / 24
    Japanese : 64 / 66
    Americans : 53 / 74
    Chinese : 2 / 11
    British : 37 / 46
    UK_Pacific : 10 / 7
    Italians : 12 / 17
    ANZAC : 14 / 23
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0