13L G40.2 AllWeNeedIsLove (allies +12) vs Stalingradski

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Western Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
            1 armour, 5 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

Combat - Russians
            Germans scrambles 1 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Belarus, round 1 :  1/15 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 1 :  0/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Ukraine, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/5 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone
                    Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Russians and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
            Moving scrambled unit from 113 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
            3 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            9 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            4 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            8 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            10 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus

Place Units - Russians
            1 mech_infantry placed in Volgograd
            8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Amur : 2 aaGuns and 18 infantry
    Belarus : 4 aaGuns, 2 armour, 18 artilleries, 27 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
    Bryansk : 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Russia : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Ukraine : 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
    Western Ukraine : 3 infantry
    Volgograd : 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
    Novgorod : 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 43 / 53
    Russians : 34 / 34
    Japanese : 46 / 56
    Americans : 54 / 75
    Chinese : 3 / 3
    British : 32 / 33
    UK_Pacific : 14 / 14
    Italians : 19 / 24
    ANZAC : 15 / 33
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Stalingradski]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 artillery moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Shensi
            2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Shensi
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Java
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 transport
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Celebes
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Celebes from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Malaya
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in Shensi
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific, taking Shensi from Chinese with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            1 aaGun moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            2 bombers moved from Shensi to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 18 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 18 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 destroyer moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in Japan
            Japanese undo move 2.
            3 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 artillery placed in Japan
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs

[allweneedislove]

would you like to scramble in sz98?

[Stalingradski]

Yes - two fighters and a tac.

It looks like a 58% battle, with 1/2 a bomber left over… considering what happened in SZ91, and that these US boats shouldn’t exist, I expect the dice to come back my way  :-D

Of course, hoping that means nothing.

[allweneedislove]

usa got 2 hits. what is your ool?

[Stalingradski]

2 destroyers -

[allweneedislove]

you got 2 hits and sunk my carrier.

i got 2 more hits.

what is ool?

[Stalingradski]

tac and destroyer

[allweneedislove]

need ool in sz42
usa got 2 hits

[Stalingradski]

Tip, destroyer.

I set myself up with 22 pips and 23 pips with my two fleets… man, you play an aggressive Allies. I didn’t think you’d hit either one. Now, I know better.

[allweneedislove]

this is a disaster.
need another ool

[gamerman01]

@Stalingradski:

I set myself up with 22 pips and 23 pips with my two fleets… man, you play an aggressive Allies. I didn’t think you’d hit either one. Now, I know better.

Taking a 58% shot on half your fleet isn’t particularly aggressive - it’s smart.
Axis should never give Allies a 50% shot on a big stack in the first several rounds.
Axis units are more valuable than Allied ones
Taking down half your carriers, and effectively half your fleet, is definitely the thing to do at this point.

It appears you are very fortunate as you are dodging a major bullet here

Axis can’t replace their powerhouse front line.  That would be Japanese carriers, fighters, and men

Karl gave me a 50/50 shot on half his German army 2 spaces from Moscow.  Now am I going to take a 50/50 now, or wait for him to squash me with 99% odds in 2 turns?
He was surprised I attacked.
Moscow was saved.

You’ll learn.

[Stalingradski]

Did you really just say that?

I’ll take this private to preserve everyone’s dignity.

[gamerman01]

What was so offensive?

If I don’t say anything, you’d probably keep offering up juicy targets for the Allies like that in future games
You were surprised he was “aggressive” and I was giving you a different perspective on it from my experienced viewpoint.

I have consistently won 80-90% of my A&A games through the years, and I was offering some helpful insights.
If that makes you angry, I think it just hurts your pride to have someone comment on a mistake you made.

[Stalingradski]

Talking about this publicly does nothing to help your cause. That’s part of the issue.

[gamerman01]

I don’t have a cause!

I just like to comment on strategy like most everyone else on the site!

If you don’t want any comments or suggestions for improvement, just say so and I’m gone!

I get it - your pride was hurt.  Just admit it and move on

[gamerman01]

OK, I’m sorry that my comments made you feel inferior - that is not what was intended.

I was only trying to help your game, and when I said “you’ll learn”, I only meant confidence in your ability to move along the learning curve quickly like a lot of us other good players are doing.

Don’t assume the worst of people when in doubt - it strains potential relationships.

[Stalingradski]

Gamerman - I posted privately to you - please don’t continue to make assumptions about me publicly. I’ve done you the honor of having a conversation with you respectfully in another place.

I’m an easy fella to get along with. I took what you said constructively, and yes, I’ll learn from what’s going on in the game.

[gamerman01]

@Stalingradski:

please don’t continue to make assumptions about me publicly.

The only assumption about you I made publicly was that perhaps your pride was hurt, which is a logical assumption given your response.  Is there another assumption I made about you publicly that I’m missing?

Can you confirm or deny that you pride was hurt?
I mean, if my assumption was correct, why are you reprimanding me for “making assumptions about you publicly”?

[Stalingradski]

Ok, you win. Let’s make this public  :oops:

Sorry allweneedislove for this commercial interruption.

Here’s the deal - I’m good with the learning opportunity. I have a lot to learn. You and allweneedislove are the top competition here, and the lessons learned are great ones, and make us all better players. I completely get it that destroying Axis capital units early can have a huge effect - in my play experience, I see a little more risk averse play based on odds, and don’t expect my opponent to make wave attacks on what look to me to be unassailable (or suicidal) positions. I’m learning that my reasoning is flawed. I don’t have a pride issue, or an inferiority issue. I know what I am… a B+ player who sometimes rises to the level of A- on a good day, and loves to learn the game.

My problem was with the tonality of saying to someone you don’t know “You’ll learn” in a blog format. My opinion is that a phrase like that is deserving of an emoticon so that it won’t be misinterpreted. I made my case to you privately.