German occupied London and Moscow in 5-7 turns

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    @jim010:

    @Cmdr:

    The game isnt even over if Moscow is in German hands.  If Moscow and London maybe, but I’ve seen the allies come back and win even with India, Moscsow and Australia in enemy hands.

    There is a term for that scenario - “fumble”.

    I call it a too powerful US, but then, I am used to Larry’s propensity for making America ridiculously powerful in his games.  ^_^


  • Guys just give it a try before its you not it. Don’t forget strategic bombers in Russia and lots of mechinized units once you’ve made a dent in Russian defenses. But that’s just basics.

    The strategic bombers on their major IC is crippling. They either rebuild or spread their units in places that aren’t Moscow. The great thing is that you only need a few escorts if any.

    Also don’t forget I said 5-7. A good player with good purchases of course can hold out longer than that but that is just an estimation


  • I’d love to, problem is as Jim said (he was in on the long Sealion thread) 11 trn is not enough to capture London.  Guess that’s why we are trying to get clarification.  Sorry, didn’t know it was too much for ya.


  • LOL, good plan - essentially you want us to defeat UK and Russia by turn 7, awesome, I’m on board.  Hey, I have a plan for Japan too:

    1. Defeat China
    2. Defeat the US Fleet
    3. Capture India
    4. Capture Sydney

    Anyway, your German plan requires…yes REQUIRES that the allies be playwed by a poor player.  Sea Lion and Barbarossa both are not layups, and you’re acting like Germany can just do everything simultaneously - it’s just not going to happen.  A good Russian plan alone can stop a Barbarossa thrust before turn 7, and thats with Germany spending all money on land units, not all on Naval for two rounds.

    Try your plan out, it’s fiction.  I would be glad to be your opponent, I’d have an easy job mopping up and conquering Berlin.


  • Listen guys if you don’t like my strategy I’m sorry but don’t call me stupid or anything like that. That’s not cool. I wouldn’t do that to anyone no matter how bad their I thought their strategy was.


  • @shadowguidex:

    LOL, good plan - essentially you want us to defeat UK and Russia by turn 7, awesome, I’m on board.  Hey, I have a plan for Japan too:

    1. Defeat China
    2. Defeat the US Fleet
    3. Capture India
    4. Capture Sydney

    Anyway, your German plan requires…yes REQUIRES that the allies be playwed by a poor player.  Sea Lion and Barbarossa both are not layups, and you’re acting like Germany can just do everything simultaneously - it’s just not going to happen.  A good Russian plan alone can stop a Barbarossa thrust before turn 7, and thats with Germany spending all money on land units, not all on Naval for two rounds.

    Try your plan out, it’s fiction.  I would be glad to be your opponent, I’d have an easy job mopping up and conquering Berlin.

    i think i could beat you ;) especially with my awesome kill america first strat(or should i say gambit)


  • Who called you stupid?

    I don’t understand posting a personal strategy on a site and then not taking criticism for it.  Did you think everyone in the world plays the game the same way?  I thought you posted the strategy to find insights into it!  INSANE!  Like, you’d make a better strategy by posting it to us!  Sorry….

    Its not pile on urmomsmom day.  We’re poking holes in your strategy to show you its not finished yet and are even pointing you in the areas that need more work!


  • I sent planes and my navy to destroy most of UKs Atlantic navy. For france, I sent all available army and planes, that could reach. For Russia,  I moved everything up to the front, that could reach. Finland was occupied. Before the end of my turn, I placed a major IC in Romania. For what its worth, I borrowed some ideas from the original poster.  Italy took southern France its first turn .

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    @urmomsmom7:

    Listen guys if you don’t like my strategy I’m sorry but don’t call me stupid or anything like that. That’s not cool. I wouldn’t do that to anyone no matter how bad their I thought their strategy was.

    No one is calling you stupid. The fact is, we all have our own strategies that we believe give us the best chance for success. They are all different in their own right, however, we refine them through experience and modify them according to failures and better possibilities. For me, I go with a G3 Sealion with 11 transports and a G1 purchase of 1 AC/1 Destroyer/1 Submarine. I think my strategy is best for the axis, but many people here feel differently and some think I am crazy, however, thats the beauty of this game…… to each their own. I have refined my strategy over many games and it is what I’m comfortable with, and for me to adopt your 1 paragraph strategy during a rare monthly game against ruthless a very challenging opponents, is just not happening. It’s not an insult, but rather a challenge to you to refine, perfect and constantly play test your strategy if you believe in it so passionately. Than come back here and tell me what to purchase every round, where to attack and with what, where to deploy and place new units. Do this for every power and for every round up to at least 4, than if it comes with your guarantee for success, I promise that I will devote one of my precious game days to your strategy.


  • Hey Grasshopper, when you do Sealion, is it rd 2 that you drop mostly transports? I would like an allies first option, but getting the build order right is kinda tricky.

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    @Defiance:

    Hey Grasshopper, when you do Sealion, is it rd 2 that you drop mostly transports? I would like an allies first option, but getting the build order right is kinda tricky.

    I will private message you in order to keep this thread on topic.


  • Thanks Grasshopper.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @urmomsmom7:

    Guys just give it a try before its you not it. Don’t forget strategic bombers in Russia and lots of mechinized units once you’ve made a dent in Russian defenses. But that’s just basics.

    The strategic bombers on their major IC is crippling. They either rebuild or spread their units in places that aren’t Moscow. The great thing is that you only need a few escorts if any.

    Also don’t forget I said 5-7. A good player with good purchases of course can hold out longer than that but that is just an estimation

    How about you play it against me?  If I tried it I might screw it up because I don’t know how you envision it exactly, only overall.

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    @JimmyHat:

    Who called you stupid?

    I don’t understand posting a personal strategy on a site and then not taking criticism for it.  Did you think everyone in the world plays the game the same way?  I thought you posted the strategy to find insights into it!  INSANE!  Like, you’d make a better strategy by posting it to us!  Sorry….

    Its not pile on urmomsmom day.  We’re poking holes in your strategy to show you its not finished yet and are even pointing you in the areas that need more work!

    Agreed.  Your strategy can be stopped cold as it is.  You need to tweak it, especially if you plan to take London on turn 3.

    I’ll post the link to the thread for you later.  It also provides maps, moves, buys amd odds for all battles to G3.  Many possibilities were looked at and fine tuned to the best Sealion and a counter.


  • I got the idea when you said it was too much to me to look at a thread. Sorry I misunderstood what you said.


  • Well lets talk about strategic bombers.

    I believe strategic bombers on Russia are crippling. Of course ones on their major IC. Considering that they only make 30 by the time you start doing the raids.


  • Wait a second. How could we play together? There is an online site for global 1940?

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    @urmomsmom7:

    Wait a second. How could we play together? There is an online site for global 1940?

    You have much to learn young grasshopper.

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    @ Jim010

    From your experience with that thread, what do you think is harder to defend against, a G3 Sealion or a G4 Sealion?

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    @urmomsmom7:

    Well lets talk about strategic bombers.

    I believe strategic bombers on Russia are crippling. Of course ones on their major IC. Considering that they only make 30 by the time you start doing the raids.

    Agreed, but not an entire solution.  20 submarines in the Pacific are crippling to the Allies as well, but also not an entire solution.


    @urmomsmom7:

    Wait a second. How could we play together? There is an online site for global 1940?

    We play on this forum all the time.  Get the Abattlemap software from the software section of this board, download the TMTM module for said software and shoot me a PM.  I"ll be glad to walk you through the rest of the process.

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