• Thanks.  That’s what I figured.  I just wanted to make sure because the rule states:  “Collect 5 IPCs per turn if the United Kingdom controls all of its original territories in North America, Africa, and Europe.” and not “…on the Europe board.”

    I guess that Malta, Cyprus, and Iceland are considered part of Europe.  So, the requirement would exclude Guyana and Trans Jordan from the Europe map, I take it.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    Damn, and here I thought there might be a reason to invade Guayana.

    Oh well… I’ll still search for one.

  • Customizer

    11.  “….  Transports are not allowed to unload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing an enemy sub(s) belonging to a power with which they are at war unless at least one of his warships was also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase.”

    Does warships include aircraft carriers or submarines?

  • '10

    Did I read somewhere that Tactical Bombers can now SBR?

    Also, they roll damage with 1D6 and Strategic Bombers roll damage with 1D6+2  ?

    Please clarify.


  • in the Alpha+.2 Rules>#8

    8. Strategic Bombing Raids procedure:
    • Escorts fire @1, and interceptor casualties are immediately removed.
    • Bombers fire @ 1 and interceptors fire @ 2. Remove bomber and interceptor casualties (escorts may be taken as casualties only after all bombers are eliminated).
    • Surviving bombers are assigned a specific target (IC, airbase or naval base) if more than one type is in the territory.
    • The target fires its AA defenses at the attacking aircraft - @1
    • Surviving bombers attack their target, looking for the highest number possible.

    When bombing, each Strategic bomber rolls one die.
    The number rolled +2 is the total number of hits the target will receive.
    Gray chips are placed under the target for each hit received.

    Tactical bombers
    Tactical Bombers can also conduct bombing raids.
    They are limited to attacking only naval bases and airbases, however.

    Other wise they follow the exact procedure as strategic bombers presented above.
    When bombing they roll one die.
    The number rolled is the number of hits the target receives.
    Do not add to the dice roll when bombing with tactical bombers.

    I hope this answers your question.

  • Official Q&A

    @knp7765:

    Does warships include aircraft carriers or submarines?

    Warships includes all sea units except transports.

    @FieldMarshalGames:

    Did I read somewhere that Tactical Bombers can now SBR?

    Yes, but against bases only, not against ICs.

    @FieldMarshalGames:

    Also, they roll damage with 1D6 and Strategic Bombers roll damage with 1D6+2  ?

    Yes.

  • Customizer

    @Krieghund:

    @knp7765:

    Does warships include aircraft carriers or submarines?

    Warships includes all sea units except transports.

    Thanks Krieghund.  So submarines ARE counted as warships as well.  I assume this is the case with that Soviet NO for controlling Archangel and having no Axis warships in SZ 125.  Germany can put a sub in SZ 125 and void that NO for Russia, right?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I could have sworn Aircraft Carriers lost their defensive ability in 1940. (Thought I read that in the rules, dont have my books atm since I’m snowed in and the temp is hitting -20 degrees Fahrenheit with wind chill so I don’t want to try and get them anyway) The Battlemap, of course, lists them with defense = 2.

    Stupid question, I know, but I am working under the assumption they have defense value 2, unless told otherwise here.  And if they have no defense, does that mean an unprotected carrier is auto-sunk by an attacking submarine?

  • Official Q&A

    Carriers have no attack value.  Their defense value is 2.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Kay, I thought so, but got confused between all the readings.

  • TripleA

    Can Japan make a major industrial on Kiangsu? etc? Japan starts the game with them and the map is yellower than the rest of china.  Rules not clear.


  • @Cow:

    Can Japan make a major industrial on Kiangsu? etc? Japan starts the game with them and the map is yellower than the rest of china.  Rules not clear.

    They have the Chinese roundel on them, which leads me to believe that they are liberated as if a Chinese territory.  This implies that Japan cannot build a Major complex on them.

  • Official Q&A

    Correct.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    So subs as a warship negect the Italian NO in the Med?

    And…  when doing SBR.  It says escorts fire,  then interceptors and bombers fire.

    Does bombers fire - INCLUDE tactical and strategic bombers?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    No, because the Italian NO specifically excludes enemy submarines.

    “Collect 5 IPCs per turn if there are no Allied surface warships in the Mediterranean Sea (sea zones 92 through 99).”

    Submarines, by definition, are not surface warships.


  • @Gargantua:

    And…  when doing SBR.  It says escorts fire,  then interceptors and bombers fire.

    Does bombers fire - INCLUDE tactical and strategic bombers?

    Of course it does.  Tactical Bombers and Strategic Bombers are both BOMBERS.  Tactical Bombers can also never be escorts.  So the only time they CAN fire is with bombers and obviously only when being used to bomb an air base or a naval base.  Which makes perfect sense - they’re bombers after all.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Really, I thought Tacticals were basically fighters that defended on 3 instead of 4, cost 1 more and could attack naval/air bases….interesting.


  • @Cmdr:

    Really, I thought Tacticals were basically fighters that defended on 3 instead of 4, cost 1 more and could attack naval/air bases….interesting.

    The way I see it, it’s a problem relating to naming conventions and historic unit roles.  Tactical bombers represent many types of planes: heavy fighters, night fighters, ground attack, dive bombers, torpedo bombers, etc, etc.  They’re far less maneuverable than an air superiority fighter (though sometimes faster), more heavily armed, and capable of carrying a small payload of bombs (like, 3x500 lb or so) or torpedos.  Strategic bombers (which used to represent many of the tactical bomber roles) are now basically medium & heavy aircraft, long range, multiengine (usually) that carry a reasonably large payload.

    Originally in A&A, as I’m sure you know, Strategic Bombers were just called Bombers, and were renamed to Strategic Bombers in AA1940 to differentiate from Tactical Bombers.  But at that point, only Strategic Bombers could be used in SBRs.  And now both types can.

    That means a Strategic Bombing Run (which used to be limited to Strategic Bombers) has a name that seems to confuse everyone because Tacticals can now perform an SBR as well.  And Tactical Bombers can scramble like fighters (which still makes sense if you know the aircraft roles in naval combat), but is confusing from an abstract view of the rules where tactical BOMBERS can perform some functions with Fighters (scrambling) and some functions with Strategic bombers (SBRs on bases) but NOT as an escort (because they areno air superiority fighters).

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    On one level, that makes sense.  However, why is their defense value so high if they are not that maneuverable?  I would suspect a defense of 2 then.  (They do 1 less attack dmg than a strategic bomber, they do one defense more than a strategic bomber.)

    Just a thought.


  • @Cmdr:

    On one level, that makes sense.  However, why is their defense value so high if they are not that maneuverable?  I would suspect a defense of 2 then.  (They do 1 less attack dmg than a strategic bomber, they do one defense more than a strategic bomber.)

    Just a thought.

    Probably because “defense” and “offense” are abstractions as well.  a strategic bomber is not useful in defending a territory because you’re bombing your own territory.  Ouch.

    A tactical bomber has a bit more homefield advantage - it’s still pounding smaller targets with more precision - torps on naval units ala midway, ground attack on infantry formations, etc.  Manueverability is abstracted more as a restriction of their use (cannot escort) and less as a factor in their defensive rolling, though arguably has some impact - they’re not quite as useful as an air superiority fighter.

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