2014 Championship – (4) Ghostglider(+21) v (2) Gamerman01(Axis)

[Ghostglider]

nice start - 3 AA hits

[Ghostglider]

2 hits  :cry:
OOL?

[gamerman01]

Wow, our dice are getting wild again.  The triple hit by the Japs in China was like a continuation of the insane defense in the Pacific theater by defending 2’s

Finally those pesky UK fighters are down!

Dang, sorry I didn’t check back until now.  You posted 16 hours ago.  I have a nasty virus on my primary computer so I don’t dare hook it up to the internet, so it’s not as convenient to check….

Lose 1 AAA and 1 infantry

I’ll check back more frequently, sorry man

[gamerman01]

No, make it 2 infantry.  You have a lot of USA fighters in Europe already

I didn’t even look to see that I had a chance of stopping the whole thing by scrambling 3 fighters - oh well, tired of getting diced.  Probably would have still said only 1

[Ghostglider]

your chance of blocking the invasion was close to 0, so the choice was 1 FTR or no FTR :-)

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 25

Purchase Units - British
            British repair damage of 5x factory_major; Remaining resources: 38 PUs;
            British buy 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            3 transports moved from 105 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 105 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 105 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Denmark
            1 bomber and 4 fighters moved from Norway to Denmark
            1 armour and 1 fighter moved from Hopei to Buyant-Uhaa
            1 fighter moved from 57 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark

Combat - British
            Germans scrambles 1 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans scrambles to create a battle in territory 112 Sea Zone
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 3 transports; Americans loiter and taunt
                Germans defend with 1 fighter
                British win with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Battle in Denmark
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 5 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 3 aaGuns and 8 infantry
                1 bomber owned by the British and 2 fighters owned by the British retreated
                Germans win with 3 aaGuns, 1 fighter and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -43
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 5 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 62 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 2 transports
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 transports
            Battle in Buyant-Uhaa
                British attack with 1 armour and 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Suiyuyan
            3 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
            4 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
            1 fighter moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            2 carriers and 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Denmark to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Denmark to Normandy Bordeaux

Place Units - British
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            British undo move 1.
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Normandy Bordeaux: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 artillery, 1 bomber and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            British undo move 2.
            British undo move 1.
            2 artilleries and 1 bomber placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            6 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 82 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
            British collect 31 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 31 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs total

[Ghostglider]

Terrible dice for Allied  :?

[gamerman01]

What, you won in Z112  :wink:
And only took 2 damage in 109!
You also wiped both my units in Mongolia for the price of a tank.  No sympathy from me
By the way, the 3 AA hits finally put you slightly above 1/6 for 1’s against your aircraft for the game.  I’m closer to 20%

Obviously Denmark went bad…… remember when you wiped out a stack with no losses?

[gamerman01]

@Ghostglider:

your chance of blocking the invasion was close to 0, so the choice was 1 FTR or no FTR :-)

Really, because I saw 93%?

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 25

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom

Combat - Italians
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 5,6 and causes: 11 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 11 damage total.

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            3 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Vologda to Belarus

Place Units - Italians
            1 bomber placed in Southern Italy
            1 mech_infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy
            Italians undo move 2.
            1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1,6,6,2,3,1,5,1,4,2,5,5,2
            Italians collect 4 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs total
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 14 PUs

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 25

Combat Move - ANZAC
            3 fighters moved from Hopei to Anhwe

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Anhwe
                ANZAC attack with 3 fighters
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                ANZAC win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 fighters

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Suiyuyan

Turn Complete - ANZAC

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 25

Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 26

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
                  Germans take Novgorod from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Samara
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Samara
            1 artillery moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 armour moved from Urals to Novosibirsk
                  Germans take Timguska from Russians
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Vologda to Novosibirsk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from Southern France to United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Samara
            11 armour, 15 artilleries, 20 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Norway
            1 fighter moved from Denmark to Norway
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Norway
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Norway

Combat - Germans
            Germans creates battle in territory 109 Sea Zone
            Air Battle in Norway
                Germans attacks with 5 units heading to Norway
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in Norway
                Bombing raid in Norway rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor
                Bombing raid in Norway rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: harbour
                Bombing raid in Norway causes 9 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: factory_minor = 6, harbour = 3
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 8 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 5 damage total.
            Battle in Kazakhstan
                Germans attack with 11 armour, 15 artilleries, 20 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Americans, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 11 armour, 15 artilleries, 20 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Germans attack with 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Samara to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            3 fighters moved from Norway to Germany
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to France
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Western Germany
            5 artilleries moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            5 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Japan
            1 bomber moved from Norway to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Norway to Russia

Place Units - Germans
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
            1 bomber, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,3,4,2,6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2,2,6,1,3,3,1,4,6,3,4,1,3
            Germans collect 54 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 69 PUs

[gamerman01]

Eh - sub to 114.

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 26

Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Buryatia
                  Russians take Buryatia from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Ulaanbaatar
                  Russians take Ulaanbaatar from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Ulaanbaatar to Central Mongolia
                  Russians take Central Mongolia from Japanese

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia

Turn Complete - Russians

[gamerman01]

Oops, was in local for the first battle (Jehol), so need to roll it here

Rolls: 2@2 2@3; Total Hits: 22@2: (5, 1)2@3: (5, 3)Rolls: 1@4; Total Hits: 11@4: (3)

[gamerman01]

Same result - most likely result probably - carrying on….

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 26

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 2 submarines and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 armour moved from Szechwan to Hopei
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi
            1 armour moved from Szechwan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Buryatia
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Buryatia
            2 bombers moved from Burma to Suiyuyan
            2 bombers moved from Kiangsi to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 fighter moved from Burma to India
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Burma to India
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to West India
            3 fighters moved from Kiangsi to Central Mongolia
            1 infantry moved from Brazil to British Guiana
                  Japanese take British Guiana from British
            1 armour moved from Brazil to 85 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 85 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 83 Sea Zone to French West Africa

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Midway
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in French West Africa
            Battle in Jehol
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 fighter
                Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans, taking Sumatra from Americans, taking French West Africa from French, taking Jehol from Chinese with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 mech_infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Japanese captures 5PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital
                Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in West India
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in Shensi
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Buryatia
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                Japanese win, taking Buryatia from Russians with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
            Battle in Central Mongolia
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters
                Russians defend with 1 armour
                Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 4 bombers
                British defend with 1 fighter; ANZAC defend with 1 fighter; Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -13
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 bombers

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from Central Mongolia to Buyant-Uhaa
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to Burma
            2 fighters moved from Jehol to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Buryatia to Sakha
            1 artillery moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Shensi
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
            1 armour moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            5 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Szechwan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
            2 infantry moved from Northern Territory to South Australia
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
            1 bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Yunnan

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 3 infantry placed in Japan
            2 submarines placed in 36 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry placed in Malaya
            1 mech_infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 mech_infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,6
            Japanese collect 76 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 81 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 96 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 101 PUs

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 26

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans repair damage of 6x factory_minor, 1x harbour; Remaining resources: 77 PUs;
            Americans buy 3 carriers, 5 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to India
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 57 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from 57 Sea Zone to India
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to India
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Germany
            2 bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Germany
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Norway to Germany
            2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Germany
            2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 112 Sea Zone
            5 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Germany
            1 fighter moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 50 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            7 carriers, 2 destroyers, 14 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 57 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 42 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
                  Americans take Southern France from Germans
            1 destroyer moved from 3 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
            11 fighters moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
            1 fighter moved from 57 Sea Zone to India
            6 fighters moved from 57 Sea Zone to Java

[Ghostglider]

Scramble from W.GER to z112?