14L G40 TheWell-KnownSoldier(axis) vs Karl7(allies+12) Game 2

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                1 artillery owned by the Chinese retreated to Shensi
                Japanese win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                retreated to Yunnan
                Japanese win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs total

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Tobruk
                  British take Tobruk from Italians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from India to Shan State

Combat - British
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Shan State
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                retreated to Shan State
                Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to Burma
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Burma
            2 artilleries moved from India to Burma
            1 aaGun moved from India to Burma
            10 infantry moved from India to Burma
            2 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to India
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to India
            1 cruiser moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia
            2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom

Place Units - British
            1 airfield placed in Egypt
            1 fighter placed in Egypt
            2 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

[Karl7]

You have rolled more 1’s than I have ever seen!

this is turning into a dice game…  :-P

[TheUnknownSoldier]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
                  Italians take Bryansk from Russians
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Ukraine
            3 fighters moved from Slovakia Hungary to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - Italians
            Italians creates battle in territory 97 Sea Zone
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Italians attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                British defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
                retreated to Holland Belgium
                British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                Italians win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            6 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
    Tunisia : 1 flag, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Western Germany : 2 aaGuns, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 factory_major and 6 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 6 infantry
    Bryansk : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Bessarabia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag, 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry
    94 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Bulgaria : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Greece : 1 flag
    97 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 39 / 59
    Russians : 28 / 36
    Japanese : 60 / 67
    Americans : 52 / 72
    Chinese : 8 / 7
    British : 35 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 8
    Italians : 25 / 25
    ANZAC : 6 / 23
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 6 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3,067
        Median : 3,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 15

Russians Combat
            4 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4,000
        Median : 4,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

British Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 1,667
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 2,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,581
        Total rolls : 3

Italians Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 6 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3,364
        Median : 3,000
        Variance : 2,700
        Standard Deviation : 1,643
        Total rolls : 11

[TheUnknownSoldier]

Axis did get a great of 1 last “turn”. I was hoping the dice statistics would provide information for the total game unfortunately that feature wasn’t quite that awesome.  :-(

[TheUnknownSoldier]

One sec will alter my Italian ncm a little.

[TheUnknownSoldier]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
                  Italians take Bryansk from Russians
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Ukraine
            3 fighters moved from Slovakia Hungary to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - Italians
            Italians creates battle in territory 97 Sea Zone
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Italians attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                British defend with 2 infantry
                retreated to Holland Belgium
                British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            6 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from France: 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Western Germany: 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Northern Italy: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Western Germany: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[TheUnknownSoldier]

Better beef up W.Germany in anticipation of the Luftwaffe’s departure.  :evil:

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            2 fighters moved from New South Wales to Northern Territory
            2 fighters moved from New South Wales to Western Australia
            1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Queensland
                ANZAC attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                ANZAC win, taking Queensland from Japanese with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Australia
                ANZAC attack with 2 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 fighters
            Battle in Northern Territory
                ANZAC attack with 2 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                ANZAC win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from Northern Territory to New South Wales

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 62 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 63 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 54 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,4,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,3,6,1,6
            ANZAC collect 6 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 11 PUs

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
                  French take Algeria from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

Combat - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Karl7]

That is insane… a reason why I hate this game sometimes… totally arbitrary

Battle in Western Australia
                ANZAC attack with 2 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 fighters

[TheUnknownSoldier]

It’s the prize you pay for playing a game with an element of chance. But I also fear you suffer from conformation bias. If you look at both your strafing attacks your expected number of fighter losses was ~2.6 in return for killing my four land units. So from an ipc perspective you got about the average result.

[TheUnknownSoldier]

Of course from the perspective of hoping to rob Japan of land units to allow a attack on NSW your are out of luck, on the other hand you had only ~70% chance to pull that of so it’s not like your failure was a one in a million…

[TheUnknownSoldier]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 bombers and 3 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            2 bombers moved from Novgorod to Holland Belgium

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 aaGuns, 15 armour, 5 artilleries, 16 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            3 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            4 armour, 1 fighter, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Bryansk
            1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from France to Western Germany
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            3 tactical_bombers placed in Novgorod
            2 bombers placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 44 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

France : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Western Germany : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 4 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Germany : 1 factory_major
    Holland Belgium : 1 infantry
    Belarus : 1 flag
    Karelia : 1 flag
    Baltic States : 1 flag
    Bryansk : 3 aaGuns, 22 armour, 5 artilleries, 4 fighters, 16 infantry, 9 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers
    Vyborg : 1 flag
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    125 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    126 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    Finland : 1 flag, 7 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 54
    Russians : 28 / 36
    Japanese : 58 / 67
    Americans : 52 / 72
    Chinese : 8 / 7
    British : 32 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 8
    Italians : 24 / 25
    ANZAC : 8 / 11
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[TheUnknownSoldier]

@TheWell-KnownSoldier:

Of course from the perspective of hoping to rob Japan of land units to allow a attack on NSW your are out of luck, on the other hand you had only ~70% chance to pull that of so it’s not like your failure was a one in a million…

On a second though I gave you too good odds. In fact you had only ~30% chance to wipe all my land units so even from that perspective you got the average result.

[Karl7]

@TheWell-KnownSoldier:

@TheWell-KnownSoldier:

Of course from the perspective of hoping to rob Japan of land units to allow a attack on NSW your are out of luck, on the other hand you had only ~70% chance to pull that of so it’s not like your failure was a one in a million…

On a second though I gave you too good odds. In fact you had only ~30% chance to wipe all my land units so even from that perspective you got the average result.

30%?  Huh?  In that battle I had 100% hit 1st round, you had 60%, round 2 assuming we both hit, I had 50% vs 30%.  As worst it would have been mutual annihilation.

[Karl7]

The point remains, that I was well within the margin of luck to stop your raid on NSW.  But extremem dice intervened to throw the game .

[TheUnknownSoldier]

First off you had two strafing battles with ~60% to win (ie wipe my land units) in one and ~50% in the second. 60% x 50% = 30%
As I said you have conformation bias. But don’t feel bad we all do.  :-)

The point remains, that I was well within the margin of luck to stop your raid on NSW.  But extremem dice intervened to throw the game .

No you had 30% chance, so you would need luck to pull it off.

[TheUnknownSoldier]

Actually my numbers are still off. You don’t need to win to wipe my units you only need to draw. But that it still 73% x 65% = 47% So you had almost a coin flip to avoid your fate. But that is fare from extreme bad luck…  :roll:

[Karl7]

how are you getting 50% in the second.  All the battles were the same – I had 100% surety of hit, you had 60%.   2 ftrs at 3 vs 2 land at 2 each.  The other was 4inf, 1art vs 2 land which I had over 100% chance to hit.

It has been a long time since I’ve taken statistics, but you are saying you multiply odds across iterations?

Anyhow, the dice are the dice.  You are going to get Moscow and NSW which will set the Allies too far back.

The game is over I think.