13L G40 Stalingradski (Axis) vs Karl7 (Allies+9)

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 12

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Stalingradski]

Ragnarok is coming in SZ112 - I’m bringing every German unit that can make it - I assume you’ll scramble - if so, which fighters?

It’s a 76% battle for me with 7 units remaining if I win, and will define whether or not I have a chance in this game. A victory for me will allow German/Italy some breathing space to be assertive again, to see if I can find some balance and perhaps regain initiative. A loss in for Germany in 112 will mean a continuation of the slow death of the Axis. Good times!  :lol:

I don’t have time to set up the map tonight, purchase, etc. so if you’d like to see the map first let me know and I’ll do it tomorrow.

Regardless, I salute your great play. I haven’t been dragged around Troy yet, but the chariot is getting readied…

[Karl7]

Ah, I thought you would attack.  Yes, 3 ftrs, scramble.  French and UK fighter, + 1 US fighter.

[Karl7]

Kill!

[Stalingradski]

No killing…  :-(

When I ran the simulator last night, I apparently didn’t add your 3 scrambled fighters. The battle drops to 21%… oops. I spent a good chunk of my day on the road, thinking about my German purchase based on a 76% to win. Ugh!

So a normal German turn on the way, but now I have to replan.

[Stalingradski]

Ok, there is no plan. Rather than holing up 10 turns from now in Berlin, and waiting for the fire bombing of Tokyo, I’d rather surrender now with some honor and dignity intact. The game is yours.

When I spend two hours looking at the map over and over, and purchasing sixteen different purchases for Germany, and don’t see any way out, and my wife asks me how it’s going and I say bad, it means it’s time to move on  :roll:

You played without error in this game, which is very challenging to play against. You were focused, and extremely solid in every facet. Honestly, there was no signature moment for me to point to… no particular purchase, or strategy, or dice failure. It was a methodical dismantling. I’ll submit the battle report and move on. Well played! You’ve been a fun opponent.

I’m up for a rematch if you are, swapping sides.

[Karl7]

Good game.  I think the rough Axis start hurt you.

Ok, so I am Axis?  you want same bid?  where do you want it?

[Stalingradski]

Yes the early bad luck for Germany hurt me… but that had nothing to do with Japan being contained. I’ve won games with worse luck. It was your play.

UK sub in 98, Anzacian infantry in New Guinea ~

[Karl7]

Well, the Axis are now my weak side.  I used to think they were my strong side, but I’ve played more games as the allies and won more with them… Also, I’ve had the worst luck with them lately.  My german openings have just sucked on the dice!

Ok, thread will be up in 5 mins.

[JDOW]

@Stalingradski:

Ok, there is no plan. Rather than holing up 10 turns from now in Berlin, and waiting for the fire bombing of Tokyo, I’d rather surrender now with some honor and dignity intact. The game is yours.

When I spend two hours looking at the map over and over, and purchasing sixteen different purchases for Germany, and don’t see any way out, and my wife asks me how it’s going and I say bad, it means it’s time to move on  :roll:

You played without error in this game, which is very challenging to play against. You were focused, and extremely solid in every facet. Honestly, there was no signature moment for me to point to… no particular purchase, or strategy, or dice failure. It was a methodical dismantling. I’ll submit the battle report and move on. Well played! You’ve been a fun opponent.

I’m up for a rematch if you are, swapping sides.

Hey guys, sorry for highjacking this thread, but I followed your game. Just a question: You said you have 21% with scrambled fighters. Why not just try it and hope for a miracle? Does not cost anything and we are talking about 21% and not 2%. So you might catch a top10% battle which leaves you more units behind than average in the simulator. Isn’t this worth a shot before surrendering?

Best,
Tobias

[Stalingradski]

Hey Tobias, great question, and I have two answers  :-)

The first is yes! Of course I should. I should always take a swing at the fences before going down. It makes rational sense. If I’m going to lose anyhow, shouldn’t I blow up as much of the world as possible on the way? What if I won the battle? I might be right back in this game, just maybe.

The second answer is no, and based on a visceral rather than rational outlook. I play the game for the most part by odds; by math, by probability. I have a very strong (perhaps absurd  :wink:) aversion to winning games based on chance rather than skill. Karl outplayed me, hands down. I don’t feel I deserve to have a chance to win based on dice, just as I don’t feel he should have a chance to lose based on dice. I know this is a very rare way of looking at A&A, but for me it’s an important part of the experience.

To me, A&A is a skill-based game with the element of chance, rather than a chance-based game with an element of skill (think Risk). This difference means everything to me, and is the exact reason I play Axis & Allies instead of Risk  :-D

[Karl7]

@Stalingradski:

Hey Tobias, great question, and I have two answers  :-)

The first is yes! Of course I should. I should always take a swing at the fences before going down. It makes rational sense. If I’m going to lose anyhow, shouldn’t I blow up as much of the world as possible on the way? What if I won the battle? I might be right back in this game, just maybe.

The second answer is no, and based on a visceral rather than rational outlook. I play the game for the most part by odds; by math, by probability. I have a very strong (perhaps absurd  :wink:) aversion to winning games based on chance rather than skill. Karl outplayed me, hands down. I don’t feel I deserve to have a chance to win based on dice, just as I don’t feel he should have a chance to lose based on dice. I know this is a very rare way of looking at A&A, but for me it’s an important part of the experience.

To me, A&A is a skill-based game with the element of chance, rather than a chance-based game with an element of skill (think Risk). This difference means everything to me, and is the exact reason I play Axis & Allies instead of Risk  :-D

Also, most of the time, big battles tend to the odds minimizing the likelihood of chance miracles.  That being said, I once lost a massive battle for the UK when I had 98% odds in my favor.

[JDOW]

Thanks for your reply and sorry for my late reaction. Got your point and totally makes sense. However we all decide not to play the low luck variation of the game, so I would have tried this battle under the condition a top10 percent battle would bring you in the game again. In principle it is a question of degree to me. While 20plus percent would be worth a shot to me I would not do a 2 percent shot.
But I totally understand and respect your point of view.

Cheers tobias