13L G40.2 AllWeNeedIsLove vs Gamerman01 (Allies +10) game 2

[gamerman01]

Let’s see how many hits I can take from your destroyers….
My poor luck streak across all games is getting to be pre-tty long, now…  :-(

[allweneedislove]

@Gamerman01:

Didn’t look too bad to me
Thanks for getting my hopes up - for almost nothing

sorry for getting your hopes up, if i was in your shoes i would have been very happy with the results. you hit in sz39, sz22, killed an extra tac in yunnan, and got a 1% result in sz23. the only battle i did better than odds was keeping an extra infantry in burma.

@Gamerman01:

Thought you were going to wipe out Z33.  After I moved 3 cruisers and a battleship in I saw you could get 4 more aircraft in than I thought and proceeded to set up a counter attack

yeah triplea was bugging out and not letting me bring my fighters from kwangsi into sz33, even thou they could of landed on the carriers and the planes from sz35 could have landed in marianas. killing that feet would have been sweet, but i assumed you probably mocked up the turn and had the same bug i had of japan not being able to bring all their planes into sz33.

@Gamerman01:

Oh well, at least you lost a few destroyers.
6 more to take their place

Yunnan could have went a lot worse for you.  You scored a lot of hits when it mattered.  You have been charmed this game, and yet I think I’ve got a good shot

it is funny how we perceive luck. i am sure that we remember bad luck much worse than good luck. this round you had much better than average results but feel like you have had bad luck. we both feel like the other player has had better luck in both our games. only way to find out is to go back over all the turns and check how results compared to statistical averages.

[gamerman01]

@allweneedislove:

it is funny how we perceive luck. i am sure that we remember bad luck much worse than good luck. this round you had much better than average results but feel like you have had bad luck. we both feel like the other player has had better luck in both our games. only way to find out is to go back over all the turns and check how results compared to statistical averages.

I never said you had better luck in the first game.

Are you sure I got lucky in Yunnan?  Sure looked like you scored a ton of hits in the first couple rounds.

I know we all remember the bad luck more than the good, and when we get lucky a lot of times we’re like “oh, that was nice” and move on.  It’s a wonder we don’t all hate each other for saying the other one is more lucky.

I will save my energy and not try to make an air-tight case.
But I will say a couple things.

Killing an extra sub and destroyer and saying “look, that was a 1% battle you won” shortly after you just annihilated Moscow with an extremely significant 6 extra tanks and that’s just comparing it to the median - if you were that far on the other side of the median you would have lost a LOT of planes - is kind of hard to swallow.

You also lucked out in a very important Z97 battle.  You also lucked out on a very important German turn and lost no planes to AA or interceptors or anything.

It doesn’t help me win, to convince anyone that I’ve had poor luck.  If you don’t play a real tight game the rest of the way, you will probably not win.

But losing 1 extra tac in Yunnan and a couple destroyers - I don’t want to hear it.  You wouldn’t believe what happened to my Japan in my just-finished game against Snake.  He couldn’t miss.
I’ve been on a brutal AA run - mine have been missing and theirs have been hitting - and you are part of that run.
Good grief, I just lost my UK bomber over France on it’s maiden run.
Agh - the more I talk about this game the more bad luck I remember.

Just remember - when players complain about luck it’s usually because they’re worried about losing because you’ve been playing well.  And I’ve been on a very bad streak for a while now, so I’m frustrated and it’s not just this game.

[gamerman01]

Alright, putting finishing touches on USA combat move.

I asked Veqryn to put in something that shows movement points remaining on planes when you’re in the middle of a move, but I think he misunderstood me.  Anyway, my head is about spinning trying to remember where I can land all this air in the Pacific, and I only have like 8 planes  :-P

[gamerman01]

You have more Zen than I do, man…. you’re probably a bit older than me  :lol:

[gamerman01]

Alright, as you wisely and nicely said, the whole point is to have fun

Time to throw some dice

Time for my luck to change
For the better, that is

[gamerman01]

Very nice.

That WAS one of my nicer rounds  :-)

Only took 1 destroyer hit, and it was fortuitously one that I brought a sub into…

Nervous about every roll because I’m trying to get back in this and I’m still undefeated!  Maybe you can give me that first loss and I can relax, but I doubt that I will!  Zhukov and I are similar - we hate to lose!

[gamerman01]

@Gamerman01:

I will save my energy and not try to make an air-tight case.
But I will say a couple things.

I’ve also missed so many tech rolls I stopped counting a while ago!  Guess it’s making up for last game!  But it is yet another unlucky facet of this game

[gamerman01]

@allweneedislove:

@Gamerman01:

Thought you were going to wipe out Z33.  After I moved 3 cruisers and a battleship in I saw you could get 4 more aircraft in than I thought and proceeded to set up a counter attack

yeah triplea was bugging out and not letting me bring my fighters from kwangsi into sz33, even thou they could of landed on the carriers and the planes from sz35 could have landed in marianas. killing that feet would have been sweet, but i assumed you probably mocked up the turn and had the same bug i had of japan not being able to bring all their planes into sz33.

Wait, what?

So roll them on the forum and edit the surviving units later!  Heck no I didn’t “mock up the turn” and have the same bug - I wouldn’t rely on that!  We play by the rules, not Triple A glitches!

I encourage you to never let a Triple A glitch stop you from making a legal move again in the future!

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Research Technology - Americans
            Americans spend 5 on tech rolls
            Americans removing all Technology Tokens after unsuccessful research.

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Tunisia
                  Americans take Tunisia from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from 95 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 23 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Wake Island to 23 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Wake Island to 22 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Wake Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Norway
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 factory_major and 2 infantry
                Americans converts factory_major into different units
                Americans win, taking Norway from Germans, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 23 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 22 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 fighters moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central America to 89 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from 22 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            2 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from 23 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 23 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 battleship, 2 destroyers, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Eastern United States: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 fighter placed in Western United States
            2 fighters placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
                  Chinese take Sikang from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
                  Chinese take Suiyuyan from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
                  Chinese take Hunan from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei
                  Chinese take Hopei from Japanese

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Tsinghai
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Tsinghai from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
            1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Shensi
            1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Shensi
            3 infantry placed in Yunnan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Research Technology - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Quebec: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Eastern United States: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            UK_Pacific spend 5 on tech rolls
            British removing all Technology Tokens after unsuccessful research.

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific repair 1 damage on 1 factory_major; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
            UK_Pacific buy nothing; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to Libya
                  British take Libya from Italians
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
                  British take Normandy Bordeaux from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Algeria to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 artillery moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                  British take Tobruk from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

Combat - British
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in Cyprus
            Battle in Greece
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking Cyprus from Italians, taking Greece from Italians, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 aaGun moved from India to Burma
            2 infantry moved from India to West India
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            1 artillery moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Syria
            3 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 125 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Eastern Persia
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 77 Sea Zone to 75 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt
            1 infantry placed in Southern France
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3
            UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs total

[gamerman01]

Ahh, my luck is starting to turn…. slowly…

Still major tech drought  :-P

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Northern Italy, round 1 :  2/5 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Americans , 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
                Italians win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 9 PUs; end with 12 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Northern Italy : 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 8 infantry
    Bessarabia : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    Yugoslavia : 6 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 46 / 90
    Russians : 21 / 0
    Japanese : 58 / 69
    Americans : 54 / 78
    Chinese : 10 / 10
    British : 46 / 51
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 3
    Italians : 9 / 12
    ANZAC : 10 / 15
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[allweneedislove]

@Gamerman01:

I know we all remember the bad luck more than the good, and when we get lucky a lot of times we’re like “oh, that was nice” and move on.  It’s a wonder we don’t all hate each other for saying the other one is more lucky.

yeah it is funny how we just assume good luck, but obsess with bad luck. this reminds me i should not comment when i get bad luck as no one(especially my opponent) wants to hear about my “misfortunes”

@Gamerman01:

But losing 1 extra tac in Yunnan and a couple destroyers - I don’t want to hear it.  You wouldn’t believe what happened to my Japan in my just-finished game against Snake.  He couldn’t miss.
I’ve been on a brutal AA run - mine have been missing and theirs have been hitting - and you are part of that run.
Good grief, I just lost my UK bomber over France on it’s maiden run.
Agh - the more I talk about this game the more bad luck I remember.

bad dice still bother me but much less than it used to. i just remember that it is a fun random game and having bad dice setbacks is all part of the fun. if i still got bothered by poor results, i would have to stop playing the game, as every game you are going to get great dice and horrible dice in different battles.

@Gamerman01:

Just remember - when players complain about luck it’s usually because they’re worried about losing because you’ve been playing well.  And I’ve been on a very bad streak for a while now, so I’m frustrated and it’s not just this game.

thanks for the tip, that is good to remember the next time someone starts complaining to me about dice, i will try to remember this.

[allweneedislove]

@Gamerman01:

Ahh, my luck is starting to turn…. slowly…

Still major tech drought  :-P

hey, keep your good rolls to other games.

this game should be reserved for all your shitty rolls.

[gamerman01]

Somebody’s gotta be there when my bad luck stops!  Might as well be a top echelon player like yourself, who has already dominated Russia!  :lol:

Will be gaming tonight

Won’t take much to do ANZAC and that other ally

Good to read your comments -

cheers

[boldfresh]

trust me allweneed.  you do not want to be the guy his bad luck streak ends on…  :-o

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from South Australia to 61 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from South Australia to New South Wales
            2 aaGuns moved from South Australia to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            COMMENT: Z62 ground units are on USA transport

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone

Non Combat Move - French
            COMMENT: 1 French infantry on each UK transport in 92
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French