13L G40.2 Gamerman01 (Allies +9) vs. Jeff28 (Axis)

[gamerman01]

Hmm, losing 2 subs, fighter and tac when I didn’t even scramble - yeah, that’s a setback
Everything else went fine for you though!  :-)

I forget - we are playing with regular tech rules, aren’t we?

[Jeff28]

As is, the tokens dont save…yes

Or we can go no tech, doesn’t matter

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

As is, the tokens dont save…yes

Or we can go no tech, doesn’t matter

I prefer the default “optional” tech rules.
So yes tech, no tokens, as you said

[gamerman01]

Great, so I can waste 5 IPC’s on R1!

Maybe I can take the time to play R1 now…

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Research Technology - Russians
            Russians spend 5 on tech rolls
            Russians removing all Technology Tokens after unsuccessful research.

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Korea
                Russians attack with 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            5 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Russia to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Belarus

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 1 fighter placed in Novgorod
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Ukraine
            1 infantry placed in Volgograd

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

[Jeff28]

You attacked Korea?

In the words of Lombardi:

“What in the world is going on out here?”

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

You attacked Korea?

In the words of Lombardi:

“What in the world is going on out here?”

I get asked this every time.

I want to take Mongolia off the table.  I think it helps the Axis more than the Allies - the stupid Mongolia rules.  I throw that infantry away as a matter of protest against the honorable Mr. Harris.  I attack Korea specifically because he added it to the 2nd edition rules  :x

If Mongolia is in play, then Japan can freely cross over between the Northern front and the Chinese front.  Now you can’t.

[gamerman01]

What an interesting player you’ve gotten involved with, eh?  You’ll probably learn all kinds of things this game.  Or just decide I’m off my rocker.

[Jeff28]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
                  Japanese take Amur from Russians

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 1 :  3/9 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 1 :  4/8 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
            Battle in Siberia

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 fighter moved from Korea to Jehol
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Jehol
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Shantung to Anhwe

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu
            2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Caroline Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Paulau Island : 1 infantry
    Kwangsi : 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    Kiangsu : 1 factory_minor
    Kiangsi : 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Japan : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 5 infantry
    Jehol : 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
    Siam : 2 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Hunan : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Chahar : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Anhwe : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Amur : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Siberia : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 infantry
    33 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    36 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport
    5 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    6 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 3 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 39 / 68
    Russians : 35 / 37
    Japanese : 32 / 42
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 8 / 12
    British : 28 / 30
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 15 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Jeff28]

Probably both.

Hell, you’re already thinking 4 moves ahead and I’m thinking about Italy 1.

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Research Technology - Americans
            Americans spend 5 on tech rolls
            Americans removing all Technology Tokens after unsuccessful research.

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico
            1 armour moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to 30 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 57 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 battleship moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 infantry placed in Central United States
            1 fighter placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs total

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                retreated to Hunan
                Japanese win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Shensi

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Yunnan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs

[gamerman01]

I haven’t played with Triple A much yet.

I have a problem.

I attacked your 2 subs in Z106 with a destroyer, cruiser, and bomber.

Triple A incorrectly rolls the defending subs first, and asks for a casualty choice.

Problem is, before I choose a casualty I should know how many hits I scored on your subs.  This makes a difference in choosing whether to lose my destroyer or cruiser.

Will you allow me to change my choice after seeing how many hits I scored?  Because in the proper sequence of events, your subs do NOT have a surprise strike.

It should be:

1. Attacker rolls
2. Defender chooses casualties
3. Defender rolls
4. Attacker chooses casualties

It’s doing step 3, then step 4, then step 1, then step 2.

If I take off my destroyer now before seeing my rolls, and I don’t hit you twice, then your sub goes free.
I shouldn’t have to make a casualty choice before seeing my attack roll.  It’s a fault with Triple A.

Understand?  So can I take off my destroyer now and if I don’t score 2 hits, change it to removing the cruiser?
Or… I could roll it out on the forum and then use edit mode to fix it, preserving the hit you got… That’s what I’ll do…

[gamerman01]

So these will be the official dice for this battle.
I’ll preserve the hit your subs scored.

Here’s my attack rollRolls: 1@2 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@2: (5)1@3: (6)1@4: (2)

[gamerman01]

OK, so I lose my cruiser after your subs hit me.

Round 2Rolls: 1@2 1@4; Total Hits: 11@2: (6)1@4: (3)Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (3)

[gamerman01]

OK, Z106 cleared with loss of a cruiser.  Destroyer and bomber remain.  I’ll use edit mode to reflect this if necessary.

[gamerman01]

Same result in Triple A anyway, so no edit necessary.
Moving on, then.

[Jeff28]

Ok, didn’t know the order was wrong. Had to make tough decisions before.

[Jeff28]

I guess this means no 97 scramble? Woo hoo.

[Jeff28]

All of the above was finer with me, btw.