@C_Strabala:
@mantlefan:
@M:
I really don’t want to take sides; but should moderators take sides? Seems counterproductive. :|
Someone could argue that the Earth is flat and IL would take that side as long as I was on the other.
What’s counterproductive is the fact that mantlefan here continues to stall with pointless posts & silly arguments. Instead he should be playing Jen to verify this strategy. It seems that he’s afraid to be beat by a girl….
Jebus people, he freely admitted he’s probably not as strong a player. If that’s the case, then no, playing her doesn’t really test the strategy if the goal is to find a way to beat it. In order to prove a strategy is broken, you need to test all possible ways to beat it, not just see the strategy in action. It’s CLEARLY a viable strategy, no one is arguing that, but what hasn’t been proven is that it’s a unbeatable strategy. A stronger player using a strategy against a weaker player will net a result which may simply be a false positive. Woooo, bad data point. Woooo, humiliated Mantlefan. woo.
It needs to be tested. It’s completely irrelevant whether Mantlefan plays Jen just to see it in action, because getting trounced by a stronger player doesn’t prove anything. Ooooooo, a strategy that’s claimed to be unbeatable crushed a weaker when executed by a player who has how many tourney wins? Wait, what does that prove? That Jen’s a better player? Hoorah. We already settled that (despite the fact that she has had some seriously flawed rule interpretations in the past). To be fair, I don’t always have a perfect grasp on the rules either, but I am NOT an experienced player by any means.
It wouldn’t hurt if Mantlefan played Jen and saw it first hand, but again, it doesn’t prove anything. His request for links to Jen’s games where she performed it isn’t exactly asking for the moon. She’s played dozens if not hundreds of games and only SHE would know which games were freaking relevant. She SHOULD post the links to those games. She SHOULD have posted them from the outset for review. It’s a bit perverse that she hasn’t, but it still needs to be tested without them (but since she’s played it, she clearly has them, so just bloody well post the links).
And everyone else that plays on the forums SHOULD try the strategy out, but for heaven’s sake, it would be most helpful if you were evenly matched. Besides, the only truly relevant games will be those done by players with OOOOOODLES of experience, who know exactly how to make the most efficient moves and purchases. And, if it’s not too much to ask, they should do the utmost to make sure they aren’t breaking the rules (cough retreating from a hostile seazone during combat move and loading and moving during noncombat cough).