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Seeking a better understanding of the bid numbers


  • Even easier - ask the player to load up the game in triplea, where it shows the game ID. Then you go straight there, now that you know how to do that


  • One other question I’m curious about that relates to this: victory conditions; what would the fair bid be if you just play a straight conquest victory without victory cities? Clearly it would help the allies to some extent, but how much is hard to tell.


  • @zlefin

    Very difficult to say without play-test data, as it’s such an integral part of the game.

    I’d say it would likely make the game extremely long, and possibly unattractive to play, if it went on and on with a world conquest requirement…


  • @Booper

    well, world conquest wouldn’t change the duration THAT much, since the allies official requirement is already pretty much that. It already just plays until the axis win or concede they have no hope of winning and will inevitably be ground down.


  • I’ve been doing some self play, and my preliminary estimate is that eliminating victory cities lets allies get away with about 20 less bid. That’s still a fairly rough estimate, but it does enable some very different allied strategies, it also lets them not have to force certain defenses as much as they otherwise need to, so they cna focus on income and positional advantage.


  • Does the bid system allow you place complex’s or is the bid strictly combat units sea/land?

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    Yes, per the League Bidding Rules as below.

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  • @The-Farmer said in Seeking a better understanding of the bid numbers:

    Does the bid system allow you place complex’s or is the bid strictly combat units sea/land?

    While allowed, my 2 cents is it’s not advised. The bid is best used for immediate round 1 attacks or defensive purposes.

    See what the top players do with their bids to see the current meta.


  • @Booper Thanks, yes I was looking over some league games to get an idea.


  • @zlefin
    I know you from TripleA.

    You also know I play more G40 than most.

    IMHO eliminating victory cities condition makes the game only matter on one side of the Map. Usually the Euro side.

    This is probably obvious to you and everyone here, but…

    As far as bids go…depends on your opponent. If they are excellent at Germans make them play Allies. Very few are good at both sides of the map. Players that are good with both…always make them play allies or make sure you get sizable bids as allies.
    There is a player active now who is dominating as Axis. I figured out he can’t play Allies at all. I bid 30-32 as allies and if he bids anything at all…I make him play Allies. I know get 30plus verse him and he is yet to win. I Yunnan stack him and dominate the Jap side.

    Know thyself…but also know your opponent.

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