@The-Pripet-Martian said in Japan goes after ANZAC:

The issue with targeting ANZAC is, for me, an economic one. For Japan to acquire ANZAC’s 10 IPC/turn, they have to capture a total of seven territories. On the other hand, just four territories - Sumatra, Java, Borneo and Celebes - will net 20 IPC/turn for Japan. My alternative to your scenario is this:

J1 Move one transport and one sub from Japan to the Carolines.
J2 Declare war, then use transport + 1 INF from Carolines to take New Guinea. Also take Malaya as soon as possible (these actions deny ANZAC National Objectives, costing them 10 IPC/turn). Use naval forces in Carolines to take out ANZAC fleet.

On subsequent turns, park subs in sea zones 54, 62 and 63. This can reduce ANZAC income to as little as 3 IPC/turn, virtually taking them out of the fight without investing a significant chunk of the Japanese navy, as well as ground forces.

Well taking it also helps secure the other money islands as you got a factory there. And with just 1 country you make it a 17ipc swing. -10 allies +7 for japan. Those transports can take java the turn after.

US has to invest to get it back, its not just easy capture for them and your fleet can position off queensland and threathen haway and also india.

@Karl7:

I seen Japan fall and the game still be in the balance, i.e. Cairo in play as last Axis VC.

The point was that once the allies are winning no axis player will wait till the end.

Once japan falls and moscow is still in play, then good luck as axis winning.
Once allies can contain 1 side the axis either need to have a win soon or just give up.
The allied victory condition is doable, its not that hard to take the 3 capitals it just takes a long time, once japan is out of the water and germany is losing ground in russia you can play for a few turns but it is inevitable.

@Arthur:

The chance of a perfect defense for UK in SZ 110 during the first round is only 5%.  I am willing to take that risk as the Axis.  Add in a 3% chance of a horrible outcome in France, along with a chance of a very bad SZ111 outcome, and a chance of a miserable Yunnan J1 outcome, and there is about a 15% chance of a major Axis setback during the first round.  I am willing to take those odds and if Lady Luck is against me then try to figure out if a desperate Plan B can succeed.

With a risky SZ110 strategy, the Germans face a 30+% chance of having major losses just in that single battle.  That is FAR different than a conservative G1 attack.  The only reason that kind of probability is justified is if you are going against a superior player and you need incredible luck to swing the odds back into your favor.  If there is someone close to my level of skill, I would never want to have that high of a probability to blow the game, especially since the upside of a good G1 is not nearly as significant as the downside of a bad G1.

My point isnt that you need to take huge risks but that even if you play good dice can screw you over.
And it does not have to be that obvious, consider a J1 attack, what if china hits 2 times in both combats. and the BB takes 2 units with it, and kwatung also hits 2 times, sure changes are not that great, but the battles themself are also not that big right, losing 1 or 2 extra inf isnt that bad. But they add up, having slightly worst luck during the game can still lose you the game.
Just those little bits of luck slow japan down for 1 or 2 rounds taking the money islands, giving UK and anzac anohter 15 and 8 income so suddenly India becomes harder to crach. Just a few bad dice 10% chance of it happening.

Im personaly a big fan of strafing 111 with the BB and doing 110 with overwhelming air. On average the UK is better of not to scramble as they trade their 3 planes vs my 3 planes which makes taranto a bigger risk. But isnt a choice and sometimes either side loses more then expected. Are 3 german planes traded for 2 UK and the french worth it if the odds of taranto drop from 90 to 70%?

@taamvan:

Isnt that also because once japan falls or germany is under serious strain and japan cannot win easy the axis will give up ?
If you stop de axis from winning and get more income as the allies its only a mather of time, if you have enough time even japan can be invaded 20ish BB and landing 20 inf every turn will wear down every stack regardless of size.

@Arthur:

If the SZ 110 dice go slightly against the Axis on the first round of rolling, UK might take take 3 hits while the Axis takes 4. The Germans would lose three planes which changes the odds in Moscow on G6. Meanwhile UK is left with an intact battleship and needs two fewer loaded carriers to defend the fleet compared to normal. That is a horrible first round. My guesstimate is that the odds of Axis victory would drop from an initial 75% down to 40% just from one slightly bad round of dice rolls. Why take that risk?

Play conservative when you have an advantage. Take more risks if you are falling behind in the game.

does it reakky mather the uk can have a perfect defence in 110 and you are down to the same result.

as axis you need decent rolls the first few rounds if you get diced a few times even in small battles the game can turn against you

@Sgt:

I think taking Washington is possible but holding it is what is almost impossible.If you don�t take eastern United States and central United States or Western United States because if enough us forces are in those territory�s especially tanks they can just roll over you cause the axis are most likely not going to have very many units there cause it�s always just some loose units. the Canadian factory in Quebec can be used to liberate Washington or the uk player can build in London and amphibiously liberate but their is a chance that the axis and capture Ottawa and the Quebec factory if undefended.

US would not have much at all in the west anyway as they mostly build fleet and maby some inf and transports.
Tanks and mechs are pretty useless for the US in the pacific its inf and art you need there. So the US cannot recapture the first round at least. And after that you can land planes and build 3 extra units with the 70+ income it could just be 3 planes as well.

Once you get washington as germany Even if UK can take it back the same round its still a great move. Although if you got 2 transports best take both western and central if you can destroy 2 major factories.

@Afrikakorps:

To make the other attacks a bit safer, I will only get 1 fighter to Tobruk or Rome, likely Tobruk as the Carrier + destroyed Cruiser will likely influence the UK player to do not do Taranto.

This changes my attacks a bit
S110 = 1 sub, 3 fighters, 3 tactical bombers, 1 bomber
S111 = 1 sub, 1 battleship, 1 tactical, 1 fighter, 1 bomber
S106 = 1 sub
S91 = 2 subs

Would be interesting to fully scramble in SZ110 with UK. you lose 4-5 planes more at the costs of 3 allied planes. not a bad trade.
Scotland can also reach taranto so the attack there is still pretty safe.

@Caesar:

If Axis forces capture DC, I don’t see how the allies can liberate it unless Axis did it against a dumb US player with something like a loose transport and an infantry. Because Germany is the most likely nation to get to DC and let’s say the pull off a full invasion, that means that only UK can liberate them and there is no way they can get enough forces from London and Canada to pull that off which leaves Japan free to do whatever on their side.

Even then, there need to be forces in the area to recapture it as well. Does not mather if it is 1 or 100 inf if you dont have any units that can reach it.

@taamvan:

Japan passes hawaii at peace
Germany Italy join up and cross the atlantic via gibraltar on G3
Take over Panama canal
Japan comes thru
both axis stay at peace until the turn 3 iirc
cant usu be stopped by allies if they don’t know its coming
Probably can’t take DC unless they’re a total noob but you can hammer their money and blow their mind (then russia and UK tear you apart)

Operation Hollywood gl hf

You cant, japan needs to stay away at least 2 spaces or 3 from US mainland, so it cannot even pass through the panama canal.

@Argothair:

Some good advice here – I like the idea of Japan coming for Russian’s far eastern territories, and I agree that Leningrad is a ‘must have’ not a ‘nice to have’ for this strategy to go well for Germany.

I’m not sure I understand the part about waiting for J2 to declare war so that the US doesn’t reinforce Gibraltar – US Atlantic fleet at start of game is only one transport, one cruiser, one fighter, and one strat bomber – there’s no Allied carrier in the Atlantic, so the planes would have to land on Gibraltar itself. Britain doesn’t have enough ships to protect SZ 91 against both German subs and German planes, even if you add that one American cruiser. Italy should be able to take either Morocco or Gibraltar on I1, depending on situation, so German planes can land. So anything the Allies send to SZ 91 on turn 1 will die on G2, I think. If America wants to head over a turn early and get itself killed, great!

With the forces there, italy will have 1 transport available so 1 inf 1 tank and a bomber

Against 2 inf and a tank or 1 inf 1 tank and a fighter, those are pretty shaky odds at best.
UK can land in Moroco with the forces from canada or UK proper, US can land 1 transport and plane in gibraltar.