Robson (X) vs Kilroynothere (A) G40 YGTE - game2 revenge of the dice gods

[Robson]

@kilroynothere oh you are absolutely right. I think the UK Pacific are not allowed to declare war before Japan does it or it is the forth turn.
So I have to move the AA back.

[Robson]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by UK_Pacific from Yunnan: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by UK_Pacific to Shan State: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[kilroynothere]

@robson actually UKP can declare war at anytime, its just the US that cannot early. Just figured you didn’t want to declare war with that move…

[Robson]

@kilroynothere Hey, I was just reading the rules from YG and have found this in the handbook (https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/36826/grasshopper-s-3g40-player-s-handbook/13) :

Political Situation: UK Pacific begins the game at war with Germany and Italy, both of which are on the other side of world. The UK Pacific may declare war on Japan at the beginning of the Combat Move phase of it’s turn three, resulting in a state of war between Japan and both the United Kingdom Europe and Pacific.

[kilroynothere]

@robson I have not read YG’s opening synopsis. Great way of putting it for each power! And yep, UKP can attack (Or move into China which results in a state of war) at anytime. There are advantages because it immediately gives UKP a 10ipc bump and the ability to build more units in India… I know when I played it I weighed that vs. US earlier involvement. Soooo many decisions early! Heck, I built a mnrIC for Germany… who does that? ;-)

[kilroynothere]

@robson so I was wrong. After re-reading, UKP can only attack on round 3 unless attacked before. I mis-read that. Sooooo complicated!

[kilroynothere]

@Robson also noticed that YG put in either 8 round OR a 10 round game, depending on the player’s desires. That changes things quite a bit for strategy I would think. Maybe next game we switch sides again and try for a 10 round and see how it goes. I’m real curious how YGs tournament goes with these rules and what the take-aways are from it.

[kilroynothere]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by UK_Pacific from Yunnan: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by UK_Pacific to Shan State: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
              Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
              Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
              Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
        3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 7/12 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Suiyuyan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 aaGun, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Jehol to Chahar
        1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
        1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
        1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Hunan
        2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
        1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 47 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kiangsi: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Manchuria: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.00
Japanese regular : 1.17

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[kilroynothere]

@Robson I had to make an edit for a non-combat as I forgot to use a tt to move two inf from Manchuria. And Japan did NOT declare war… first time I’ve ever waited until round 3. Totally different game again!

[Contango]

@Robson
@kilroynothere

Hey Fellas, just passing through and I noticed you were able to move a UK Pacific unit into China before UK Pacific and Japan were at war. This shouldn’t be allowed. It looks like there may be a bug in the game code.

I’ll make a note of it and hopefully fix it if I do an update in the future.

[kilroynothere]

@contango thanks for checking in and noticing that. Really appreciate all the programming work!

[Robson]

@kilroynothere yes sounds great!

[Robson]

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
              British take Tobruk from Italians
        1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
        1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
        1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
        3 destroyers moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya

    Combat - British
        Battle in Kenya
            British attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya
            British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 bomber moved from Malta to Egypt
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from Quebec to 109 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Scotland to Eire
              British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
        1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 aaGun moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 artillery moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 armour moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom

    Place Units - British
        1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 109 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
        Objective British Colonies: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Objective British Commonwealth: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0,33
British regular : 0,17

Savegame

[Robson]

@contango thanks for your efforts for this variant. Really appreciate it!

[kilroynothere]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 carrier and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
              Italians take Algeria from French
        1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Algeria
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Tobruk

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Tobruk
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tobruk, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tobruk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tobruk
            Italians win, taking Tobruk from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 bomber moved from Tobruk to Southern Italy
        2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
        1 armour moved from Greece to Romania
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        2 destroyers moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Italians
        1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        1 carrier placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.33
British regular : 0.67

Savegame

[Robson]

TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
        10 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Kweichow
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow
            1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated
            Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 10 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 10 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Kansu
        1 infantry placed in Shensi
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan
        2 infantry placed in Yunnan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 12 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0,00
Japanese regular : 0,00

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[Robson]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Russians
        12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
        6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
        7 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        5 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 armour moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Karelia
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Karelia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
            Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
            Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Bryansk
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Bryansk
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Karelia to Bryansk
        1 fighter moved from Karelia to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        1 aaGun moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
        2 aaGuns moved from Buryatia to Amur

    Place Units - Russians
        1 infantry placed in Novgorod
        1 infantry placed in Ukraine
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0,33
Russians regular : -1,00

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[Robson]

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
        1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 aaGun moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber placed in 101 Sea Zone
        3 destroyers placed in 10 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Robson]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Young Grasshoppers Tournament Edition, version: 1.0.4

Game History

Round: 2

    Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Morocco

    Non Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Robson]

@kilroynothere Hey Kilroy, sorry for the delay. Just got a nasty flu and was not able to play the last days.