• “The school governor who challenged the screening of Al Gore’s climate change documentary in secondary schools was funded by a Scottish quarrying magnate who established a controversial lobbying group to attack environmentalists’ claims about global warming.”

    thats not somethin g you can ignore. some of the conservatives here need to think a little harder. more good news:

    "WASHINGTON - While some indicators have stabilized, the Arctic is seeing significant changes from warming temperatures and shrinking sea ice, the Bush administration said Wednesday in an annual report card on the region.

    Sea ice fell well below the previous record, caribou are declining in many areas and permafrost is melting, according to the State of the Arctic report issued by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21347288/

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I don’t care who challenged it or why, Smacktard.  All that matters is that a court found that the film was NOT factual and had many unfounded statements in it’s editorials that it tried to pass off as facts.

  • 2007 AAR League

    indeed.  :-D

    does anyone know that the ice in the ANTarctic is the most its been on record.

  • 2007 AAR League

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/antarctica-ice-cap-growth-reaches.html

    and then….boom

    http://www.gma.org/surfing/antarctica/antarctica.html

    notice how the second states the science that melting ice caps in the arctic wont raise sea lever.  why?  b/c they float, and already displace as much water just floating on it.  them melting doesnt change a thing.  now greenland and antarctica are ice sheets on land, if they melt sea levels will go up.  but guess what, the antarctic ice is GROWING.

    game set match…Science!

    that and al gore is a moron…who invented the internet.  who won the nobel peace prize for telling half truths and outright lies.  and then contributing to the problem himself.  10 houses, give me a break.


  • The arctic is made up of more than just floating ice. theres plenty of non-floating ice that can raise sea levels (only about three feet though in 100 years). the real danger is greenland and antarctica.

    heres a take on increased snowfall in the antartic:

    **Climate scientists have long suspected that warming the oceans around a very cold continent is likely to dramatically increase snowfall. Consider Antarctica. It’s plenty chilly, dozens of degrees below freezing, and it’s surrounded by water. The warmer the water, the greater the evaporation from its surface, and, obviously, the more moisture it contributes to the local atmosphere.

    So, when this moisture gets swirled up by a common cyclone, do you think it’s going to fall as rain in Antarctica?** http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/qthinice.asp

    the auithors of the article believe there are enough checks and balances in the climate to mitigate any damge humans caus to the environment. im not so sur on about that.

    Greenland is the real troublespot thes days: Scientists believe Greenland’s glaciers are sliding into the ocean much faster than earlier thought, a new report says.
    The loss of ice from Greenland doubled between 1996 and 2005, as its glaciers flowed faster into the ocean in response to a generally warmer climate, according to a NASA/University of Kansas study.

    http://www.physorg.com/news10948.html


  • isn’t this a political discussion?

  • 2007 AAR League

    Are you the PD Police!?
    I’ve seen you say that in like 20 places by now … didn’t you quit being a moderator?!

    If you actually looked it is clearly not unless the weather is political

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @AJ:

    Are you the PD Police!?
    I’ve seen you say that in like 20 places by now … didn’t you quit being a moderator?!

    If you actually looked it is clearly not unless the weather is political

    I concur.  Al Gore is a civilian, not a politician.  Also, global warming is a scientific, allegedly, issue.  Honestly, I think it is religious.  You need blind faith to believe the numbers pro-global warming alarmists produce.


  • Are you the PD Police!?

    for some reason whenever i try to type in these threads the final result changes to “isn’t that a political discussion”

    I think my keyboard is messed up.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Imperious:

    Are you the PD Police!?

    for some reason whenever i try to type in these threads the final result changes to “isn’t that a political discussion”

    I think my keyboard is messed up.

    Or the mods are messing with you. :)


  • @AJ:

    Are you the PD Police!?
    I’ve seen you say that in like 20 places by now … didn’t you quit being a moderator?!

    If you actually looked it is clearly not unless the weather is political

    Naw, I’d say Imperious is a concerned citizen.

    Global warming is a scientific issue, but it’s also a political issue.

    And seriously - I’ve seen forums degrade to the point where you see

    ZOMGHAHHAHAAHHL OZOZLLROOZLLORLROFLROFLLOLZLZOLZLOZLZL!!!one!!catsup11!!! THAT was SUO FUNNEEH1!!! hahahasorrrr

    U think I’m kiddin?  The future starts now!

    roflCAPSLOCKLOLZ

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @newpaintbrush:

    @AJ:

    Are you the PD Police!?
    I’ve seen you say that in like 20 places by now … didn’t you quit being a moderator?!

    If you actually looked it is clearly not unless the weather is political

    Naw, I’d say Imperious is a concerned citizen.

    Global warming is a scientific issue, but it’s also a political issue.

    And seriously - I’ve seen forums degrade to the point where you see

    ZOMGHAHHAHAAHHL OZOZLLROOZLLORLROFLROFLLOLZLZOLZLOZLZL!!!one!!catsup11!!! THAT was SUO FUNNEEH1!!! hahahasorrrr

    U think I’m kiddin?  The future starts now!

    roflCAPSLOCKLOLZ

    And it is a religious issue.  As in, the current extremists of the global warming crowd are members of an unorganized religion.


  • I think you have to be religious in your political and scientific beliefs to unwaveringly believe that anyone against your opposing view is wrong/ignorant/part of an unorganize religious cult.  You’re an adult.  Grow up, act like a civilized person, own up to the fact that people think differently than yourself, move on.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @ieatcrayons:

    I think you have to be religious in your political and scientific beliefs to unwaveringly believe that anyone against your opposing view is wrong/ignorant/part of an unorganize religious cult.  You’re an adult.  Grow up, act like a civilized person, own up to the fact that people think differently than yourself, move on.

    No, you just need to have the most significant facts to support you to believe unwaveringly that someone opposing your view is wrong.  For instance, was Jeffery Dahmer right to be a cannibal?  No.  He was wrong.  See, you can have unwavering confidence in your stance on an issue and not be religious about it.

    However, look at the global warming cult.  The Heaven’s Gate Cult and other infamous cults were engaged in the same tactics.  Bash and slander anyone who opposes you instead of arguing the facts.

    Now, if individual leaders of the Global Warming Cult would get on national television for live debates with global environmental/geological/astronomical and other experts that disagree and prove their ideas are superior, it would be a scientific, not religious, debate.

    However, to date, Al Gore has been asked thousands of times to debate the topic with experts and he has entered into zero debates.  He will only show up if he is allowed to orate a sermon to his cult followers.  Not debate.  Science is debate, test and codify, but still debate after codification to ensure it was codified correctly.


  • However, look at the global warming cult.  The Heaven’s Gate Cult and other infamous cults were engaged in the same tactics.  Bash and slander anyone who opposes you instead of arguing the facts.

    Only people I see bashing and slandering anyone here is balung and yourself.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @ieatcrayons:

    However, look at the global warming cult.  The Heaven’s Gate Cult and other infamous cults were engaged in the same tactics.  Bash and slander anyone who opposes you instead of arguing the facts.

    Only people I see bashing and slandering anyone here is balung and yourself.

    I’m just comparing similar mentalities.  It’s not a bash.  Just a comparison.  You seem awfully defensive, almost like someone defending their religion against a non-believer.


  • @Cmdr:

    I don’t care who challenged it or why, Smacktard.  All that matters is that a court found that the film was NOT factual and had many unfounded statements in it’s editorials that it tried to pass off as facts.

    Which was unnecessary and stupid, considering that ALL movies fall under this.

    @Cmdr:

    @ieatcrayons:

    However, look at the global warming cult.  The Heaven’s Gate Cult and other infamous cults were engaged in the same tactics.  Bash and slander anyone who opposes you instead of arguing the facts.

    Only people I see bashing and slandering anyone here is balung and yourself.

    I’m just comparing similar mentalities.  It’s not a bash.  Just a comparison.  You seem awfully defensive, almost like someone defending their religion against a non-believer.

    Delusional and projecting.  Are you paranoid?
    The oogey boogey weathermen aren’t out to get you.

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