Regularkid (Axis) vs. Gamerman01 (Allies) - G40 Balance Mod (0 bid)

[regularkid]

lolz. yes, some doosies in there. haha

regarding Morocco: Yes, putting uK units in it will prevent that territory and unit from turning when VichY France occurs (they will stay free french)

you can put a plane in southern france to try to prevent Vichy France (the idea being that UK assistance to the French in their hour of need encourages them to fight on!). If the unit is still there at the start of France’s turn, Vichy France will not occur.

Of course Italy will have a chance to correct matters. If you put a plane there, in order for VichY France to still occur, Italy will have to kill all units in that territory without taking the territory itself. Basically an air nuke. So, practically speaking, a fighter might do the trick, but maybe not. Land units from Egypt/Cyprus would almost certainly do the trick (especially if coupled with a fighter), cuz much harder for Italy to air nuke that.

The question is how important is it to you to stop Vichy France. Is it worth it if you can simply mitigate the consequences by sending UK units to the specific territories u want to keep? All things to consider.

[gamerman01]

Right, thanks for the quick answer, though it is not holding up my Russian turn of course.

More questions.  I can’t find the thing about the French infantry….

West African infantry will remain Free French?
Destroyer off Africa is Free french, right?  Because I didn’t read anything about it, I think it is.

So basically FIC, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, French Central, French Equa, Madagascar, French Guyana, and Syria would all turn pro-Axis at the beginning of France one because you took Normandy, assuming there are no UK units in South France at that time.

So after Vichy France is established, then it counts for Italy’s NO but no Axis power can control it, so can’t build there or collect the 3 IPC’s?  And if Axis take control of South France, they don’t have to fight - but the 2 French units there and the 2 boats are destroyed.  Is this all correct?

So the Frenchman in West Africa will be cut off from Eastern Africa and Egypt, etc?  Oh, wait, no, he can activate the pro-Axis neutrals by walking into them in combat movement?

[gamerman01]

Reading it again, the infantry stays there and is pro-Axis??  So the Allies would have to attack and kill the infantry to take control - in North Africa
And Syria…

[gamerman01]

I guess you’d want to leave the Vichy French territories in West Africa for the UK….

[gamerman01]

Oh jeez, so UK can get French Madagascar easily too?

[gamerman01]

Marines attack at 2 every round during amphibious assault?

Iron Blitz CD-ROM game had marines that attacked at 3 for the first round only - wanted to make sure it wasn’t like that.  (They also cost 5 but had to be loaded on transports)

[regularkid]

French West Africa (and the unit) turns Pro-Axis Neutral when Vichy France occurs (at the beginning of France’s turn) unless there is a non-French Allied Unit in that territory at the time.

If the territory and unit turns, Allies can only take the territory with a combat move. This is handled just like any other pro-axis neutral. The units fight back, and must be killed for Allies to get the territory.

Yup, Madagscar is fair game if France turns Vichy. Yay History!!!

Marines get their amphib bonus for the entire battle.

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
            3 artilleries placed in Ukraine

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

[gamerman01]

Oh, now I see it’s French EQUATORIAL Africa, not French West.  Got it - the allies are gonna ROLL  :wink:

I think the Axis have won most of the balanced games so far though?  Very small sample size.

Your turn!  I’m gonna go watch a football game

[regularkid]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 marine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Korea to 31 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 artillery moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 marine placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 40 PUs

[regularkid]

Gamerman, the Mod files with the enhanced marine images, objectives panel, etc. are available for download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wlya7zued52et90/G40 Balance Mod Files.zip?dl=0

Instructions on installation:

1. Download the “G40 Balance Mod Files.zip” file to your desktop

2. Unzip this zip file

3. Locate your “documents/triplea/maps” directory. It usually the same triplea folder that contains your “savedgames” folder.

4. Once inside the triplea/maps folder, you should see a file called “World War II Global.zip” (you’ll also see one called :World War II Global.zip.properties." ignore this)

5. Unzip “World War II Global.zip” (Don’t worry. This has no impact on playability. TripleA reads zip files and regular folders the same way).

6. Inside the unzipped “World War II Global” folder, you will see a bunch stuff. We are concerned with only three items: (i) the “map.properties” file, the “objectives.properties” file, and the “units” folder.

7. Now, if you go back to the “G40 Balance Mod Files” folder that you downloaded to your desktop, inside you should find these same three items: “map.properties,” “objectives.properties,” and the “Units” folder

All you have to do is replace the existing “map.properties,” “objectives.properties” and “Units” folder in your World War II Global directory, with the ones that you downloaded. Again, this will have no impact on the playability of the regular game.

Once this is done, launch TripleA and run our game. You should see the objectives listed in your objectives panel, the new unit imagines for ‘marines,’ and a distinct color for pro-axis neutral territory that will set Vichy France apart.

If you have any questions, or run into any issues let me know! Enjoy!

[JDOW]

Questions about Marines,

so attack at 2 during amph assault - check

Why building them for 5 instead if Inf/arty?

[regularkid]

Marines turn your capital ships into mini troop transports. So if you happen to have a cruiser or battleship on hand (as every nation does at the start of the game), buying a marine is like buying an artillery powered unit and transport in one.

How about a game?

[JDOW]

Thanks, understood.

Definitely interested in a game, however I have 2 regular games going and will play Gamerman in the playoff semi final next, so I need to postpone.

[gamerman01]

I got the download working - I think.  I see some of the new NO’s, but several are missing.  Is this normal?  Does the game still do them all correctly but just doesn’t show them all?  For example, I see the “northern” route for Russia for 2 IPC’s but none of the others.

[gamerman01]

I loaded up my game with Ghostglider and the new NO’s (although, again, not all of them) are showing.  I thought it would have no impact on the 2nd edition regular game…

[regularkid]

“I got the download working - I think.  I see some of the new NO’s, but several are missing.  Is this normal?  Does the game still do them all correctly but just doesn’t show them all?  For example, I see the “northern” route for Russia for 2 IPC’s but none of the others.”

It is normal if you are in a regular G40 game. If you’re in our game, you should see all of the NOs listed.

The objectives panel is purely cosmetic. It has zero impact on playability of either version. The game will calculatesthe NOs correctly regardless of what the Objectives Panel says they are (or even if there is no objectives panel at all).

If you want the original objectives panel back, just replace the “Objectives.Properties” file in your “triple/maps/world war ii global” directory with the original file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/92pk24wag4uy5ak/objectives.properties?dl=0

[gamerman01]

Yeah, I’ll just leave the old one in, so thanks for the file - I already copied it
I do like the pro-Axis neutral color a lot better - pretty cool upgrade, thanks

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 harbour and 1 marine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 64 Sea Zone to Southeast Mexico
            2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 64 Sea Zone to Southeast Mexico
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico
            1 armour moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 aaGun moved from Western United States to Central United States
            1 cruiser moved from 26 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 64 Sea Zone to Southeast Mexico
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 10 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 10 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 57 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Western United States
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Southeast Mexico

Place Units - Americans
            1 harbour placed in Southeast Mexico
            1 marine placed in Central United States
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 10 Sea Zone
            Americans undo move 3.
            1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Southeast Mexico: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

[gamerman01]

Sorry about the edits -
Fighter from EUS stays put instead of moving to WUS, fighter from Hawaii to WUS instead of SE Mexico