G40 Boldfresh(x) v Gamerman

[gamerman01]

Hmm - bigger problem for you than for me…  Could be really easy to miss a 1-2 attack possibility!

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  ANZAC take Java from Dutch
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 artillery moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 fighter moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :1

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 92 Sea Zone

Combat - French
            Battle in Southern France
                French attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Italians win with 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                French attack with 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                French win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - French
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

[gamerman01]

Comforting to know the French are able to sink a transport  :roll:

[gamerman01]

Congratulations - you got me to play a full round of a game in AAA - that is a first.

Things I like about this program

1. Wrap-around USA - this is wonderful - better even than playing the board game (since Larry didn’t bother to have the USA on the East line up with the USA on the West, nor the sea zones - VERY POOR)
2. A lot of the units look pretty cool once you get used to them.  I especially like that a lot of the units look like the ones from the Board game (especially mech) and the unique artillery units of each country (esp Italy)  The AA guns are great.
3. Obviously, not having to type everything or switch between the internet and the program all the time
4. Obviously, not having to check everything on the map every turn, and less downloading and then opening up in the program
5. Changing the color of the territories, as I said before.  (Kind of wish the neutrals would become a solid color too, though)

Good to see the Yukon territory change was an easy fix for them.

Well, I’m just going to keep it positive.  My critical points about AAA from before remain…  But I see that playing G40 in AAA will be very fun, so thanks for persisting.  :-)

[gamerman01]

By the way, did you know that in earlier versions of G40, Berlin only had a minor industrial complex?  And there was no minor in Ukraine.

WHAT WAS HE THINKING?  A MINOR in BERLIN??

Things I like about G40

1. Russia is appropriately huge
2. Oceans are appropriately huge
3. Air bases and naval bases
4. Repairable capital ships
5. Australia is divided up into multiple territories
6. Scotland and Eire
7. Pro-Axis and Pro-Allied neutral rules
8. 3 ZERO IPC territories in Russia - love it
9. Minor vs. Major complexes and their rules.
10. SBR and interceptor fights.  +2 Strat bomb damage
11. That Russia territory is only worth 3.
12. That you can’t build IC’s on islands or 1 IPC territories.
13. No majors on non-original territories
14. Mechanized infantry
15. Tech tokens are gone
16. Strait and canal rules, especially the new Danish straits and strait of Gibraltar
17. That it is possible to bring in all the true neutrals and earn money off them.
18. That Persia is 3 territories, and only one has infantry and income
19. Massively expanded Mediterranean

Again, I’ll keep it positive today, and not repeat all my scathing criticisms of the shortcomings of this game.  :-)

[gamerman01]

Oh and

20. China is appropriately huge
21. China rules, and that they actually can get an NO and buy artillery
22. Split UK economies, but combined forces (brilliant)
23. New AA rules (did you know I talked Larry into reducing the cost back to 5?)  8-)

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

Yikes, it’s almost impossible to tell the ANZ boats apart from the USA boats…. this could be problematic in the future…

yes, but when you look on the territory tab, it separates the boats nicely.

[boldfresh]

i agree let’s play tech, since we are just messing around…  i haven’t played a G40 tech game yet, and don’t know if i even know all the techs - are they listed in the ruleset?

[gamerman01]

@Boldfresh:

@Gamerman01:

Yikes, it’s almost impossible to tell the ANZ boats apart from the USA boats…. this could be problematic in the future…

yes, but when you look on the territory tab, it separates the boats nicely.

I trust you’ll forget to do that at a key moment!  :wink:

[gamerman01]

@Boldfresh:

i agree let’s play tech, since we are just messing around…  i haven’t played a G40 tech game yet, and don’t know if i even know all the techs - are they listed in the ruleset?

Sure, in the global rules.

Dude, it’s too late to approve tech, I already rolled one with the USA!  Too bad I didn’t get improved shipyards - you might not have even known I had it for awhile  :lol:

[gamerman01]

Paratroopers are very unique, so you need to read about those.
Rockets are launched from airbases, not AA guns
LRA is +1 (We knew this was a much needed improvement before Larry did!  8-))
Improved mechanized infantry totally sucks - it’s worse than advanced artillery!!

Jet fighters do nothing for tacticals (basically makes them completely obsolete except for their SBR ability)

Those are the biggest changes from AA50
You’d better read up on them, yes.
I think all G40 games should be with tech, since there are no tokens and so very few breakthroughs will ever make their way into most games.

Oh, and China can’t roll for tech.  I checked with Krieghund.  Everybody else can.

[boldfresh]

what is improved mech?

[gamerman01]

It’s a joke.  Well, it used to be a joke.

Mechanized infantry THAT IS PAIRED WITH A TANK attacks at 2 instead of 1.

Along the way, Larry added that mech can blitz by itself too.  But it’s still pretty bad.  I mean, you’re taking off the mech first in a fight, right, so how many rolls are you even making where you’re trying for a 2 instead of a 1.

Paratroopers are cool, though.  Read it and let me know if you have any questions.  At least you don’t have to guard everything within 6 (or 8) spaces of every bomber paired with an infantry any more.

[boldfresh]

nice to see you pointing out the positives of tripleA!  it does have its downsides of course, but for global, it makes the game imminently more playable and i think still favors the more meticulous player that knows the rules best, although perhaps not as much as battlemap.

[gamerman01]

Every playing medium will favor the one who is more detail oriented and knows the rules.  I don’t understand how this would be a point of difference between Triple A or Battlemap…  is it because Triple A has a lot of the rules programmed in, so you are prevented from breaking many of them?  But then Triple A also tends to reinforce the WRONG rules by allowing them and thus training players to think they know the rule, only to find out in a big meaningful game that the Triple A engine was dead wrong  :lol:

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour, 10 artilleries and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
                  Germans take Normandy Bordeaux from French
            4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
            6 armour moved from France to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 1 bomber and 4 mech_infantrys
                Neutral_Allies defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 1 bomber and 4 mech_infantrys in Yugoslavia, round 1 :  5/11 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 6 armour, 1 bomber and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            8 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
            2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 104 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            2 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from France to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy
            2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from France to Northern Italy
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Slovakia Hungary
            2 armour moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary

Place Units - Germans
            1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            10 artilleries placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Gibraltar : 1 flag, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Slovakia Hungary : 1 flag, 3 armour
    Western Germany : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
    Romania : 1 flag, 2 artilleries and 13 infantry
    Poland : 1 flag, 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 22 infantry
    Germany : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 10 artilleries and 1 factory_major
    Northern Italy : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    116 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
    95 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 submarines
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    121 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
    115 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys
    Finland : 1 flag, 11 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 51
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 39 / 46
    Americans : 50 / 71
    Chinese : 10 / 16
    British : 27 / 31
    UK_Pacific : 14 / 14
    Italians : 17 / 29
    ANZAC : 14 / 19
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 3 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.333
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.727
        Standard Deviation : 0.853
        Total rolls : 12

Neutral_Allies Combat
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 6.000
        Median : 6.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.091
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.500
        Standard Deviation : 1.225
        Total rolls : 11

[gamerman01]

Sorry.
I will start playing again soon.

[boldfresh]

we really do not need to continue this.  i am completely full of games so do not do anything here on account of me - remember this was purely to get you to try out tripleA.  as i think you will agree, tripleA has enough strengths to outweigh its weaknesses and you are now open to using it to play G40 which was the entire purpose.

happy new year!

[gamerman01]

Yeah.

Stalker!  :lol:

Thanks for giving me permission to quit.  You didn’t have some new strategy you wanted to try out?  That was a ruse?
I think you’re going to bowl over Russia, although I hadn’t looked at doing the R2.

But yes, thanks for taking a game off my plate so it doesn’t nag at me.
And remember, if you want a G40 partner I’m interested.  I think one of the best qualities of G40 is its multiplayer play.  After all, US/China/UK doesn’t look as overwhelming if you’re not doing both UK and US…