12L AA50-41 djensen (Axis) vs Amon Sûl (Allies +9)

[Amon-Sul]

CAN YOU PLEASE MOVE MY AA GUN FROM RUSIA TO BELORUSIA

AND 2 INF FROM SFE TO YAKUT

THANK YOU

[djensen]

So apparently I screwed up. The bid favoring the Allies should be when using national objectives. I have learned that without national objectives, the bid might be just he opposite, like Axis +7 or something.

Not sure how to rectify this. I think we can turn on NOs in TripleA at anytime but you would have to be willing to do that. Or we play a few rounds and I eventually concede a loss.

Thoughts?

[djensen47]

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Russia: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Belorussia: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Soviet Far East: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Yakut S.S.R.: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Japanese buy 1 armour and 1 fighter; 2 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            1 artillery moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 49 Sea Zone to Borneo
                  Japanese take Borneo from British
            2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 51 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 51 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to East Indies
                  Japanese take East Indies from British
            1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 51 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 51 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 60 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 60 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            2 fighters moved from 61 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Fukien
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien
            3 infantry moved from French Indo-China Thailand to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 50 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship and 2 transports
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 battleship and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Philippine Islands
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Philippine Islands from Americans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Battle in Suiyuan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuan from Chinese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Fukien
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Fukien from Chinese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 armour moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 carrier moved from 61 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 57 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 57 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuan to Japan
            1 fighter moved from Fukien to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 cruiser moved from 61 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Kiangsu
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien

Place Units - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 fighter placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs total

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Borneo : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    East Indies : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    French Indo-China Thailand : 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
    Fukien : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Japan : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
    Kiangsu : 1 infantry
    Philippine Islands : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Suiyuan : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    36 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    37 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 2 fighters
    38 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    49 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    50 Sea Zone : 1 battleship and 2 transports
    51 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 33 / 35
    Russians : 30 / 30
    Japanese : 30 / 32
    British : 33 / 43
    Italians : 10 / 10
    Chinese : 4 / 0
    Americans : 38 / 40

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.12#msg899775

[Amon-Sul]

@djensen:

So apparently I screwed up. The bid favoring the Allies should be when using national objectives. I have learned that without national objectives, the bid might be just he opposite, like Axis +7 or something.

Not sure how to rectify this. I think we can turn on NOs in TripleA at anytime but you would have to be willing to do that. Or we play a few rounds and I eventually concede a loss.

Thoughts?

as i know in revised axis had the bid in aa-41 the allies have it

[djensen]

Okay, happy holidays, and go ahead with your turn.

We’ll see how it turns out.

[Zhukov44]

Strictly speaking National Objectives on is the default for league games.  Even if you both agree they are to be off, one should decide on using NOs before you bid.  It seems that Djenson legitimately didn’t know that the games here are played with NOs and agreed to 9 because that seems to be a normal bid around here (with NOs).

If you continue on w/o NOs it probably wouldn’t be fair to count it as a league game, since you apparently didn’t agree on using or not using NOs before the bid was finalized.  However at this early stage, it would be very easy to switch the game to NOs, using edit to factor them in.

[Amon-Sul]

djensen i am sory i confused

we have to play NOS

and tech is out

otherwise
the biding is ˝wrong˝

what do we do now

[djensen]

Okay, can you turn them on and do your next turn?

Should we adjust the income for Germany & Japan, if needed, as well?

[Zhukov44]

To change it, go to Game Options, and turn NOs on.

Then use edit to add 5 ipcs each to Japan, Germany, and Russia.  And you’re good to go.

For more on national objectives see
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12287.0

[Amon-Sul]

@Zhukov44:

To change it, go to Game Options, and turn NOs on.

Then use edit to add 5 ipcs each to Japan, Germany, and Russia.  And you’re good to go.

For more on national objectives see
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12287.0

i cant see turn NOs

[Amon-Sul]

i found thank you  :lol:

[Amon-Sul]

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 9 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 6 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 2 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                British attack with 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser and 1 transport
            Battle in 2 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 12 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 7 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from India to Persia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Australia to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 2 Sea Zone to French West Africa
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada

Place Units - British
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.21#msg900787

[djensen47]

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Balkans to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Balkans to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 15 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
                  Italians take Trans-Jordan from British
            1 armour moved from 15 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Italy to Balkans
            1 infantry moved from Balkans to Bulgaria Romania
            2 infantry moved from Libya to Morocco Algeria
            1 fighter moved from Italy to Morocco Algeria
            2 cruisers moved from 14 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs total
            Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Balkans : 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    Morocco Algeria : 1 fighter and 2 infantry
    Bulgaria Romania : 1 infantry
    Trans-Jordan : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 infantry
    14 Sea Zone : 1 battleship
    15 Sea Zone : 2 cruisers and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 33 / 40
    Russians : 30 / 35
    Japanese : 30 / 37
    British : 32 / 33
    Italians : 11 / 21
    Chinese : 4 / 0
    Americans : 38 / 40

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.22#msg900309

[Amon-Sul]

Game History

Round :1

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Chinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.23#msg900883

[Amon-Sul]

Territory Summary for Americans :

Eastern Canada : 1 bomber and 2 fighters
    Eastern United States : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 bomber
    Wake Island : 1 infantry
    Western Canada : 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
    Western United States : 1 factory
    10 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports
    56 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport

[Amon-Sul]

Round :1

ame History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 2 carriers and 1 transport; 0 PUs remaining

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 57 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Midway to 57 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 57 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 infantry moved from Alaska to Western Canada
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to Western Canada
            1 aaGun moved from Western United States to Western Canada
            1 infantry moved from 56 Sea Zone to Western Canada
            1 battleship moved from 53 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 44 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 56 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier placed in 56 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour placed in Eastern United States

Territory Summary for Germans :

Czechoslovakia Hungary : 2 armour
    Egypt : 1 flag, 2 armour and 1 artillery
    France : 2 fighters and 3 infantry
    Germany : 1 aaGun, 4 artilleries, 1 factory and 5 infantry
    Libya : 1 bomber and 1 infantry
    Norway : 2 fighters and 3 infantry
    Poland : 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Bulgaria Romania : 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 4 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    15 Sea Zone : 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 33 / 40
    Russians : 30 / 35
    Japanese : 30 / 37
    British : 32 / 33
    Italians : 11 / 21
    Chinese : 4 / 0
    Americans : 38 / 0

[Amon-Sul]

Round :1

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs
            Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

[Amon-Sul]

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[djensen47]

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Egypt to French Equatorial Africa
                  Germans take Anglo-Egypt Sudan from British
                  Germans take French Equatorial Africa from British
            1 fighter moved from Norway to Baltic States
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Eastern Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 artillery moved from Bulgaria Romania to East Poland
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from Libya to Eastern Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to East Poland

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Eastern Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Eastern Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in East Poland
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 2 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Ukraine to Poland
            1 armour moved from Czechoslovakia Hungary to France
            1 armour moved from Czechoslovakia Hungary to East Poland
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to East Poland
            1 fighter moved from Norway to France
            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Germany to France
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to East Poland
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Morocco Algeria
            1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to 16 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 16 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 14 Sea Zone to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Germany to France
            4 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs
            Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Anglo-Egypt Sudan : 1 flag,    Baltic States : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    East Poland : 1 flag, 5 armour and 1 artillery
    Egypt : 1 flag,    France : 1 armour, 3 fighters and 5 infantry
    French Equatorial Africa : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Germany : 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
    Libya : 2 infantry
    Morocco Algeria : 1 infantry
    Eastern Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Norway : 3 infantry
    Poland : 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
    Trans-Jordan : 1 armour and 1 artillery
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    14 Sea Zone : 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 38 / 48
    Russians : 27 / 35
    Japanese : 30 / 37
    British : 30 / 33
    Italians : 11 / 21
    Chinese : 4 / 0
    Americans : 38 / 48

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.28#msg900981

[Amon-Sul]

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 3 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            3 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Norway
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Eastern Ukraine
            1 armour and 11 infantry moved from Caucasus to Eastern Ukraine

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Eastern Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 12 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Eastern Ukraine from Germans with 1 armour and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Norway
                Russians attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                Germans defend with 3 infantry
                Russians win, taking Norway from Germans with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            4 infantry moved from Russia to Eastern Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Urals
            4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
            3 infantry moved from Stanovoj Chrebet to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 aaGun moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 aaGun moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Russia

Place Units - Russians
            3 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Caucasus
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
            Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.29#msg901439