G40 Marsh (Allies +14) vs. StuckTojo (Allies) No VCs

[StuckTojo]

Sorry to have to tell you this, dude, but your fighters can’t land in Greece.  As per the rulebook:

“Air units can land in any territory that was friendly (but not friendly neutral) at the start of the current turn.”

You’ll have to figure out if they have enough moves to land somewhere, or unfortunately they’re lost.

[StuckTojo]

Also, I suppose if any of those fighters had no place to land then the initial battle was tainted.  :-P

I only noticed them in Greece by the time I did my non-combat, otherwise I would have said something sooner.

[MarshmallowofWar]

The fighter CAN land in Greece, as I occupied it on my turn and you provided them with the need to land on your turn.

[MarshmallowofWar]

Fighters.

At the start of Italy’s turn, Greece was friendly to the UK (as it was a UK controlled territory). That means that if the carrier is wounded that the fighters can land there.

[MarshmallowofWar]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Java
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  ANZAC take Java from Dutch
            2 aaGuns moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

triplea_41812.0_ANZ1.tsvg

[MarshmallowofWar]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - French
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France

Combat - French
            Battle in Southern France
                French attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Southern France, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Southern France
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Southern France, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
                Germans win with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - French
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa

Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 1.00
    French : -1.00

triplea_41812.0_Fre1.tsvg

[MarshmallowofWar]

If you want to go get a ruling on the fighters in Greece thing that’s fine. If the ruling comes down against me, then we’ll toss the cruiser and leave the fighters in the sea zone, or rerun the battle and I’ll give you an order of loss.

[StuckTojo]

OK, we have a good old fashioned debate on our hands here.   :lol:

How about we take it to the forum.  The quote above states “not friendly neutral” which I cut and pasted right from the rule book (p.22).

Also, p. 10 specifically mentions land units only:  “They can be moved into (but not through) as a noncombat move by land units of a power that is at war (see �Noncombat Move,� page 22)”

That said, I’ve been wrong before, so I’ll submit the question to the forum.

Is that cool with you?

[MarshmallowofWar]

Sure, that’s fine. I think the confusion is on turn vs round. Each round is composed of one turn per power.

[MarshmallowofWar]

Just so we’re clear, the fighters were on the carrier until you put a hit on it. They were forced to land in Greece during Italy’s non-combat phase.

[StuckTojo]

Oh crap!!!

That’s the part I did’t get.

OK. Never mind.  My mistake, then.  Go ahead and go for Germany.

[StuckTojo]

ANZAC, I mean.

[MarshmallowofWar]

I already did.

[MarshmallowofWar]

Oh yeah, and I made my first serious mistake on France’s turn – I should have killed the Italian transport.

[StuckTojo]

@Marshmallow:

I already did.

Ah, so you did. I’m really on a roll this week.

Going now.

[StuckTojo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 9 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
                  Germans take Normandy Bordeaux from French
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Tobruk to 97 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Southern Italy

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 91 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer; British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 :  4/7 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    1 carrier owned by the British, 2 fighters owned by the Germans, 1 destroyer owned by the French, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 cruiser owned by the French lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Germans: 2 fighters
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 armour moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
            1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Greater Southern Germany
            2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bulgaria

Place Units - Germans
            1 bomber and 2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            9 artilleries placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs

triplea_41812.0_Ger2.tsvg

[StuckTojo]

@Marshmallow:

Oh yeah, and I made my first serious mistake on France’s turn – I should have killed the Italian transport.

Meh.  I forgot to take Kenya with Italy.

[MarshmallowofWar]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Smolensk
            3 artilleries moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            2 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            6 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

triplea_41812.0_Rus2.tsvg

[StuckTojo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 harbour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            8 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in French Indo China
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  1/6 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 :  1/4 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 :  2/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers in Yunnan, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in Yunnan, round 5 :  1/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking French Indo China from French with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -13
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 8 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 8 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in Szechwan, round 2 :  7/14 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 :  4/6 hits
                    5 infantry owned by the Chinese, 3 fighters owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Chinese and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan
                Japanese win with 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -22
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 fighter moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Anhwe
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Kiangsi
            4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi

Place Units - Japanese
            1 harbour placed in Hainan
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs

triplea_41812.0_Jap2.tsvg

[StuckTojo]

Holy crap I took a beating there!  :-P