@Stucifer

I also think for the purpose of the game, historical units need to meet certain qualitative and quantitative thresholds to be part of the game’s unit set. Single units are meant to represent entire divisions, squadrons etc. And since units have the same characteristics for every country, quality is represented via quantity. Therefore, small and/or obsolete things that may have existed historically do not meet the threshold to exist in the game.

@regularkid @simon33

League play is a small sample out of the universe of AAA games IMO. I’ve played several hundred games but never a single league game. Once my play group discovered PTV we pretty much switched to that exclusively over the past 2+ years.

I think the division of the Malaya SZ was good (and honestly support almost any change to increase the number of territories and SZs). If you think that change massively imbalances the game, I’d like to hear what you think the balance of P2V is (in terms of required Axis bid)? I think it’s pretty close to balanced and we normally play with an Axis bid of about 6. And we certainly don’t feel that Japan is weak, though the justification for a J1 DOW is lower than Global.

@crockett36 Just watched the entire Adam vs Gamerman vid, great stuff as always. Now that you’ve broken the seal on BM, time for a PTV video ;)

@djensen In for gold for my first year. Hopefully we can get those numbers back up.

@Matt-Hyra @Stucifer Is flying back from my house as we speak. We played Operation Torch several times, though we messed up some rules so I wouldn’t put too much credence into the results until the final game when we played correctly (to our knowledge).

In that game it came down to a US attack on Tunis on the very last round, which the US won. Great finish.

L24 PTV 666 over mikawagunichi (X+11)

Japan was unable to hold on to it’s 7 VCs and the Axis income crumbled. Great game by 666.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/40649/l24-ptv-mikawagunichi-x-11-vs-666/125?_=1713126036728

I’m new to P2V but like what I’ve seen so far and think this will be my favorite version of global.

I think the combination of the added NOs in the Pacific along with the Jap CA & marine at the Carolines brings back the possibility of the Pearl Harbor attack being viable. I did this in a play test vs myself with the following moves:

3 fig, 3 tac, 1 SS, 1 DD to Pearl
CA + marine to SZ 33/Gilbert Islands
TT from SZ 7 to SZ 32/Wake Island
2 BB, 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 SS, 2 TT to SZ 36, take both Philippines territories

NC all 3 CVs to SZ 32 to land planes, replace any lost with those from Japan (should be 1)

1 DD to SZ 27 to block

1 CA left in SZ7 to pick up Marine built J1 which will take Guam on J2. CA/Marine that took Gilbert on J1 will take Wake on J2. That gives you both Pacific Island NOs.

Japan made 48 IPCs J1, 62 J2. The fleet that went to the Philippines J1 can take Borneo/Celebes J2, and Java/Sumatra J3 and kill the tiny UK or AZ fleets that may get in the way. By doing the PH attack you’ve taken out 2 of the 4 US ships which can carry troops and delayed their advance in the pacific by a turn. Also pretty much forces US to spend in the Pacific which helps Germany.

The re-drawn map has it’s advantages and disadvantages. The attacks I’ve laid out allow for single ships to take islands without fear of counterattack due to the extra SZs and the islands bordering multiple SZs. Since a Calcutta Crush is impossible with the extra SZ off Malaya, I think a more methodical strategy by Japan is optimal. Use your initial advantage to kill as many Allied ships as possible, thereby saving money which may otherwise be spent on ships to get more land units into China and heading south on TTs.

@gamerman01

L24 PTV

@Stucifer over MikawaGunichi

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/41139/l24-ptv-mikawagunichi-x-12-vs-stucifer-allies/214?_=1732213705898

I respectfully request a search of the Hall of Records and to have my name added if I am the first Axis player to lose in a game whilst having sacked London, Moscow, and India ;)

@Daaras I edited the french west african up one move towards egypt, forgot to ncm him r1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: UK_Pacific round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from India to West India
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
        1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
        1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Scotland
        1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland

    Place Units - British
        3 armour placed in Persia
        2 transports placed in 109 Sea Zone
        1 artillery placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from French Equatorial Africa: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: UK_Pacific round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from India to West India
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
        1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
        1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Scotland
        1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland

    Place Units - British
        3 armour placed in Persia
        2 transports placed in 109 Sea Zone
        1 artillery placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Chinese round 6

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 2 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Chinese round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        13 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar
              Chinese take Chahar from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Chahar

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 armour, 3 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
              Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
            Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
        2 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        9 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
        6 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Western Ukraine
        2 fighters moved from Bessarabia to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Smolensk
        2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to India
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq
        2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Ukraine
        1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.67
Russians regular : -1.67

Savegame

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 6

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 aaGun and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
        2 artilleries moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        1 artillery moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
              Russians take Rostov from Italians
        2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 15 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Caucasus
            Russians attack with 3 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 mech_infantrys
            Germans defend with 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Italians defend with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 3 : 3/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in Caucasus, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
                2 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus
            Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 3 armour and 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Germans: 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
        Battle in Archangel
            Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
            Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Bryansk
            Russians attack with 3 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
            Russians win, taking Bryansk from Germans with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Russians attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 15 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 11 armour and 11 mech_infantrys
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 15 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 7/26 hits, 6.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 11 armour and 11 mech_infantrys in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 7/22 hits, 9.17 expected hits
                7 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                7 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 8 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 7/19 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 11 armour and 4 mech_infantrys in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 9/15 hits, 6.83 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 8 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                3 armour owned by the Germans and 4 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 5/10 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 8 armour in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 4/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                3 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 5 : 4/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour in Western Ukraine, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 33
            Casualties for Russians: 2 armour, 1 artillery, 15 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Germans: 11 armour and 11 mech_infantrys

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 aaGun moved from Vologda to Archangel
        1 aaGun moved from Vologda to Archangel
        1 aaGun moved from Vologda to Archangel
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from India to West India

    Place Units - Russians
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
        7 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Ukraine: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 7 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 2 bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.33
Russians regular : 4.33

Savegame

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 9

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Tobruk to 98 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 battleship moved from 99 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        3 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Kursk

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
            Italians attack with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 3 cruisers in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
                1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
            Italians win, taking Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British with 3 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Kursk
            Italians attack with 1 armour
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Kursk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kursk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kursk
            Italians win, taking Kursk from Russians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Italians
        2 tactical_bombers placed in 99 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs
        Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 32 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 2.33
Russians regular : -0.33
British regular : 0.33

Savegame

@axis-dominion no rush lol I’m off to bed

@axis-dominion thanks