Variance vs Karl7 (allies +20)

@AndrewAAGamer said in L24 OOB LL AndrewAAGamer (X) vs Myygames (L +60):

Scramble SZ111?

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No scramble in 111
dive in 106

Classic 41824 Round 03 - Russia.tsvg

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Russians Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 2 fighters and 3 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 2 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 2 armour moved from Caucasus to Russia 1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Russia 1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Soviet Far East 1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk Place Units - Russians 7 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R. 2 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 29 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0,67 Russians regular : 0,50

@Stucifer

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Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Albania to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 armour moved from Algeria to Morocco 1 artillery moved from 94 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Morocco 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Morocco 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 armour moved from Romania to Bulgaria 2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 4 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia Combat - Italians Battle in 94 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Italians win with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Morocco Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry British defend with 2 fighters; French defend with 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 fighter Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for French: 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter Casualties for British: 2 fighters Non Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from Morocco to Algeria 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 bomber moved from Morocco to Algeria Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Southern France 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs

Oh boy have I been looking forward to this one. OOL in 112?

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 12 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Americans converts factory_major into different units 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy Americans take Northern Italy from Italians 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 1 mech_infantry moved from Turkey to Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Saudi Arabia to Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from India to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Russia to Tsinghai 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 1 bomber moved from Russia to Tsinghai 1 bomber moved from Russia to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Turkey to Bulgaria 1 mech_infantry moved from Turkey to Bulgaria 1 bomber moved from India to Bulgaria 1 fighter moved from Saudi Arabia to Caucasus Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Ukraine Germans roll AA dice in Ukraine : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Ukraine rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in Ukraine causes 5 damage total. Strategic bombing raid in French Indo China Japanese roll AA dice in French Indo China : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in French Indo China rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in French Indo China causes 6 damage total. Battle in Tsinghai Americans attack with 2 bombers and 1 fighter Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 fighter in Tsinghai, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tsinghai Americans win with 2 bombers and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Caucasus Americans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus Americans win with 2 bombers and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Bulgaria Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys Italians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Bulgaria, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Bulgaria Americans win, taking Bulgaria from Italians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 fighter moved from Bulgaria to Turkey 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Turkey 2 bombers moved from Caucasus to Russia 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia 2 bombers and 1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Russia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Saudi Arabia to Turkey 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Greece 2 aaGuns moved from Southern France to Spain 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Spain 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to India 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Spain 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Spain Place Units - Americans 1 factory_minor placed in Greece 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Spain 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Saudi Arabia 1 bomber placed in Spain Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 10 Sea Zone: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 26 Sea Zone: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 64 Sea Zone: 1 infantry and 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 10 Sea Zone: 1 infantry and 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 41 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4 Americans collect 71 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 71 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 91 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 96 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 101 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Chinese Guerilla Tsinghai: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Shensi Combat - Chinese Chinese creates battle in territory Tsinghai Battle in Shensi Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi Chinese win, taking Tsinghai from Germans, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan 8 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Suiyuyan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 6 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 3 armour, 5 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from India to Burma 1 mech_infantry moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan Russians take Kazakhstan from Germans 1 armour moved from Turkey to Rostov Russians take Caucasus from Germans Russians take Rostov from Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Romania British take Romania from Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Albania British take Albania from Italians 1 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain 1 bomber moved from Russia to Burma Combat - British Battle in Burma British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India 1 mech_infantry moved from India to Afghanistan 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Turkey 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Turkey 3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Greece 1 fighter moved from Turkey to Russia 1 fighter moved from Greece to Russia 3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Turkey to Caucasus 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Turkey to Greece 1 fighter moved from Greece to Russia 1 fighter moved from Greece to Russia Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in Southern France 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Turkey 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Iraq 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Persia 1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 50 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 53 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.33 Americans regular : -1.33 Japanese regular : -1.67 Italians regular : -0.33 Japanese AA : -0.17 Germans AA : -0.17 Germans regular : 0.33 British regular : -0.33

Savegame

Thanks for your patience while I was away! I had a busy few weeks at work, but I should be more available now.

Thanks for being patient about my delay; had a busy few weeks at work, but I should be more available now.

We’ll have to see how this neutral crush of yours works out. I feel pretty sore about losing the eastern German factories to a surprise attack that blitzes through all of Turkey and sacks the Ukraine before Germany can even respond. Adding insult to injury, I can’t even use the Italian air force to can open a German blitz, because those same factories will turn around and immediately serve as an indestructible roadblock to German tanks. Finally, Greece hasn’t had a Black Sea coast since at least the fall of Trebizond in the year 1461, but Larry Harris’s geographic error in the original Global game has been copied over to this map, which means that I can’t attack your British transports in the Black Sea because of your airbase in Athens.

So, I’m feeling a little overwhelmed by all the ways the rules as written wind up not matching my intuitions about how a ‘real’ war would work. I salute your detailed knowledge of and exploitation of the finer points of this map and of the ruleset, but I think it’s fairly likely that I won’t be able to recover those factories; they look like they’ll probably turn into dead zones that we keep trading, at best. I’m not sure whether I’ll want to keep playing if that happens; I guess I’ll take a look at the map in a couple of turns and see if I feel like surrendering.

@crockett36 Screwed up some noncoms and had to edit.