XDAP-2: Onward! Defrosted Tuna Team vs Death by Dice

@ghr2:

actually its still 5 subs,� carrier is 2 hit unless your keeping it with damage.
@Noll:

oh I assigned 1 more hit to the Americans, it’s 1 carrier and 1ss (3 hits)

Basically, Noll still got 4 hits unless he just chooses to damage his carrier instead of destroying it.

Sorry Noll. You dint just get to Redo USA. Maybe I will Redo Germany…

The Americans got a certain number of hits and you assigned them without asking in a way that massively disadvantaged me against the obvious British second strike.

Redo the British turn and next time remember to ask for an OOL.

I’m fine with ghr2’s assertion that dice shouldn’t change. Though it will likely affect the normandy landing either way.

the OOL changes how the battle rolls, if your goign to change the OOL after the battle was resolved, then you have to redo the entire battle, or just everything from the first defensive roll.

@ghr2:

the OOL changes how the battle rolls, if your going to change the OOL after the battle was resolved, then you have to redo the entire battle, or just everything from the first defensive roll.

cause technically, the defender needs to have the casualties selected before he sees his/her dice

If you want an opinion from the peanut gallery, i think Germany trades the hit on the CV for a DD and the planes go back on the carrier, US gets to retreat 1 sub out of that combat to account for extra rolls by dead DD.

Keep your fcuking panties on Noll, I’m at a family wedding.

That’s a little bit more important than a fucking board-game. And with due respect to my team mates and other opponent your attitude and shenanigans are making this game more of a burden.

Congratulations you posted 6 minutes after me. I’ve got more important things to do right now. I’ll get to it as soon as I can. Relax, it’s still just a game.

Noll YOU missed the OOL.

The OOL doesnt change any dice. We use the same dice, and change the order in-whicht hey are assigned.

I appreciate the opinion from rgp44. He’s right.

Because the way you suggested doing it you win either way. You’ve structured it that way because you feel like you’ve been unfairly disadvantaged in this game by laws of probability.

So my options are:

1. Take the rediculous OOL and allow my planes to be killed by infantry and my fleet to go undefended.

2. You get to REPLAY the USA to compensate for a sub-par dice roll.

You win either way. And you structured it that way.

You got bad dice with the USA so you intentionally fucked the OOL so that the Brits could easily mop up and now that I’ve called you on it you want to redo the USA. Either way you were going to take out that fleet, rules and fairness be damned.

Redo the UK. I will not accept a re-roll of dice just because you jumped the gun, ignored the rules and made up a goofy OOL for your oppenent that massively advantaged us.

Noll, stop being such an Italian! People have LIVES past AA.org.

As for what the course of action is going to be - PER THE TOURNAMENT MODERATOR :D

The culprit of the problem was that the Americans selected casualties without respecting the ability of their opponent to choose.  In order to minimize the size of the repair that needs to be made, I have to agree that the American turn stands, and that the game should be -RESTARTED- at the British turn.

If there are any questions or appeals you can PM me personally, but I think that’s incredibly clear. Proceed.

I just don’t like the defender (after seeing how the rolls went) gets to change how the losses were applied.  That’s all.

Just make sure that for every battle now, ask the OOL.

@ghr2:

Just make sure that for every battle now, ask the OOL.

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