• got it.


  • So is this Income rule set done for phase 1?


  • you mean about “isolation”… i think thats phase two stuff… also it need something … or lacks something


  • I thought the idea was to have a simple rule in place for phase1 and add details (in particular, further restrictions and naval convoy) later.

    It certainly lack a few more things. But can look into it now if we want the details for phase1.

    To me the current isolation rule is like the “sub can’t hit sub” rule. Simple and straight forward realism rule.
    We don’t get a sub to attack another sub. We don’t send iron ore trucks through enemy territory, nor do we air lift them…


  • Ok rewrite exactly how it should read in a phase one setting… an will have a look at it. The last form you posted was too short. provide one example for clarification.


  • Ok how about this.

    Isolation or Blockade

    During collect income phase if a territory is completely surrounded by hostile/neutral territories and/or hostile sea zones, its income cannot be spent in other territories.
    That income and only that income can be spent in its IC or VC during purchase units phase this turn.
    That income is forfeited if not spent this turn.

    eg. USSR holds Karelia S.S.R., Archangel, Russia, Kazakh S.S.R., Caucasus, Ukraine S.S.R., and Belorussia. Germany holds West Russia. Germany may only use West Russia’s income on Western Russia or it is be forteited.

    Industrial interruption or Production interruption

    During collect income phase if a territory suffered one or more attacks since your last turn and at least 3 combat cycles (excluding dogfighting) has occurred in one or more of these attacks, its income is reduced by 1/4 rounded down to the nearest IPC.

    eg. UK attacked Germany’s Western Europe and 3 combat cycles excluding dogfighting has occurred. Germany collects 1 (6 / 4 = 1.5 = 1) less IPCs from Western Europe next turn.


  • OK but the degree of loss in case two is too great. How bout 1/2 rounded down?


  • :?

    Too great?
    Yet its 1/4 at the moment and you want 1/2 ?

    By the way its income reduced by 1/4, not income becomes 1/4.


  • Germany collects 1 (6 / 4 = 1.5 = 1)

    so for France germany collects 5 instead of 6? i read the result is Germany loses 5 IPC according to your post?


  • :-o, no its “1 less”

    “Germany collects 1 (6 / 4 = 1.5 = 1) less IPCs from Western Europe next turn.”


  • OK but all that just to lose 1 IPC? Whats the math on a 2 IPC territory?  Can it be simplified further? IPC values of 1-5= lose one, IPC values of 6-12= lose two?


  • That’ll work out to be similar (referring to divide/rounding system to bracket lookup system)

    Its just wording. Good idea.  :-)  A table would make it easier.

    So a table as well as a tad more powerful as you wish  8-) :

    IPC income     Interruption loss
    1-3                1
    4-6                2
    7-9                3           
    10-12            4

    The argument for double attack not doing the same economic damage is that only the security compromisable areas are effected. Core production is hardly touched without actual defeat of enemy.


  • Thats much better ill vote for that.


  • Final draft for phase 1

    Blockade

    During collect income phase if a territory is completely surrounded by hostile/neutral territories and/or hostile sea zones, its income cannot be spent in other territories.
    That income and only that income can be spent in its IC or VC during purchase units phase this turn.
    That income is forfeited if not spent this turn.

    Production interruption

    During collect income phase if a territory suffered one or more attacks since your last turn and at least 3 combat cycles (excluding dogfighting) has occurred in one or more of these attacks, its income is reduced.

    Original income      Production Interruption loss
    1-3                       1
    4-6                       2
    7-9                       3
    10-12                   4


  • Ok good except “its income cannot be spent in other territories” need more clarification… can we place infantry in this area or you saying the equal value in IPC (in terms of units) cannot be shifted to placement at other locations?


  • replace
    “its income cannot be spent in other territories.
    That income and only that income can be spent in its IC or VC during purchase units phase this turn.
    That income is forfeited if not spent this turn.”

    with
    “The blockaded territory’s income can only be spent in its own VC or IC. Income from other territories may not be spent in the blockaded territory’s VC or IC.
    If the blockade territory’s income is not spent this turn it is forfeited.”

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