13L G40 Gamerman01(allies+10) vs seththenewb(axis)

[gamerman01]

Yeah, send 'em up to intercept
You’re going to have to earn your damage

[seth4god]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
                  Germans take Novgorod from Russians
            3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
                  Germans take Holland Belgium from French
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            3 bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Russia
            1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Baltic States
            2 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States

Combat - Germans
            Air Battle in Russia
                Germans attacks with 3 units heading to Russia
                Russians launches 2 interceptors out of Russia
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in Russia
                1 bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 5,7 and causes: 12 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in Russia causes 12 damage total.
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 6 armour and 5 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 6 armour and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
            2 bombers moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            5 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Romania to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland

Place Units - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 armour placed in Western Germany
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5,1,2,6,3
            Germans collect 43 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 43 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

[gamerman01]

Whew!

SBR’s are stressful

[seth4god]

Apparently 2 dead Jap bombers are greater than 3 German ones. It took 3 bombers and they didn’t do the same amount of damage and one got shot down in the process.  :oops:

[seth4god]

@Gamerman01:

Whew!

SBR’s are stressful

Yeah, I know! I know that the +2 damage means that bombers should theoretically cause more damage than I lose on SBRs . . .  but man I always breathe a sigh of relief when red dice don’t show up for interceptors and ack ack. I’m just glad bombers came back and I at least equaled the damage for the loss of the bomber. I’ve had too many runs where I send 7 bombers out at different targets and have 5 of them shot down. (true story)

And hey look, SBR first. I done good.  :wink:

[gamerman01]

@seththenewb:

And hey look, SBR first. I done good.  :wink:

I noticed!  I’m pleased.

Yeah, it’s hard to beat perfection.
Double miss on AA and then double sixes (fancy that)

Bomb run on Moscow close to average - a bit in my favor since your bombers missed me, you lost a bomber on a 42% chance, but then got slightly above average damage rolls… (average of 4,4)
So we’re both happy we averted disaster… I’m thrilled to have 2 fighters still alive for counter-attacks…

I think I can sneak in this Russian move quick, here…

[gamerman01]

'bout freaking time I hit a tech (referring to Wheatbeer game also)

Kind of a weak one, though…

[seth4god]

What’d you get?

[seth4god]

Ah, improved mech. I’d take that no question.

I’m assuming you didn’t get Hvy Bombers since some of that chart would be just useless for you. Still chart 2 does have some good ones … .  but probably chart one is the right call for USSR.

[gamerman01]

Yeah, and even though the increase attack power is negligible in all practicality, the ability to blitz could come in handy

A tech hit is a tech hit, I always say.  If I hit again I’ll get something better.

[seth4god]

Was the rest of Russia coming or were you mulling that over still?

[gamerman01]

Need casualty choice in West Ukraine
4 hits scored

[seth4god]

dump aa gun, keep best D, lose art last.

Whenever I stick aa guns out like that, assume I will lose them first.

[gamerman01]

Great, because if you kept your AA gun until last, I couldn’t hit and run and I would be dead meat in West Ukraine
Thanks for making the wrong decision  :-D

[seth4god]

Wait . . . maybe I misunderstood the rules. You can keep the retreat, I won’t try to stick you on that because that wouldn’t be classy.

But, why would you HAVE to stay another round if it was just the AA gun?

[seth4god]

That unit might have a defense of zero and I could see how it’d just die if you stayed. But wouldn’t you still have the option of continuing the attack or retreating? They’re not like transports in that they can be taken as a casualty, so technically they wouldn’t automatically die in that first round if they were the last survivor right?

[gamerman01]

You can’t retreat from units with no defense value

I didn’t realize it until I got 4 hits and it was casualty choice time, so I had to ask you.

Fair enough, that we both missed it.

But remember that for future reference - you can’t retreat from only AA guns, so you could trap your opponent on an intended hit and run by saving the AA gun(s) until last!

[gamerman01]

I think I’m recalling this from a Krieghund FAQ answer, but I couldn’t find it after a quick search.  Doesn’t matter since we agree you have 1 artillery there and you chose to lose the AA first.

I can ask on the FAQ thread to make sure for future reference.

Would have finished my turn, but my laptop shut itself down for the 5th time today, so I drove home and am now on my trusty desktop and can finish the turn.

Will require a little editing for combat results already rolled.

[gamerman01]

That was a pain, but I found it.
See replies #610 and #611 in the FAQ

Here’s the rule that applies
Page 20, Condition A, Attacker and/or Defender loses all units

“Once all units that can either fire or retreat on one or both sides have been destroyed, the combat ends”

Condition B is that the Attacker retreats

So if the defender is left with only units that have no combat value (transports or AAA), the attacker loses their option to retreat.

You can see this in the FAQ in reply #611 and if it was not correct, Krieghund would have corrected it.

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Research Technology - Russians
            Russians spend 5 on tech rolls
            Russians removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
            Russians discover Improved_Mech_Inf

Activate Technology - Russians
            Russians activating Improved_Mech_Inf
            Trigger Russians Improved Mech Inf: Russians is added to UnitSupportAttachment attached to:games.strategy.engine.data.UnitType called armour with name:supportAttachmentMechanizedTechnology

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians repair 6 damage on 6 factory_majors; Remaining resources: 26 PUs; 0 techTokens;
            Russians buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Western Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Western Ukraine
            6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
                Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Russians attack with 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Iraq
                Russians attack with 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                Russians win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                2 infantry owned by the Russians , 2 armour owned by the Russians , 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians retreated to Bryansk
                Germans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Smolensk
            3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
            1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Smolensk
            2 fighters moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
            1 aaGun moved from Smolensk to Bryansk

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Russia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs