JDOW (X) vs Farmboy (L+22) BM3

[farmboy]

@jdow just made an edit of an ncm that may matter for Japan. Soviet inf on the Us transport.

[farmboy]

@farmboy actually changed my mind on that. Soviet inf will stay in Iraq so use the earlier file.

[JDOW]

@farmboy ok will do

[JDOW]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0

Game History

Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan
        2 infantry moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kazakhstan
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Kazakhstan
        1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Philippines to 34 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 34 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Kazakhstan
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan
            Japanese win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
        Battle in 34 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 34 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to Philippines
        4 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to Celebes
        3 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to India
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 artillery, 2 battleships, 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 3 transports moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
        2 infantry moved from West India to India
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Afghanistan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to India
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
        1 bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
        2 fighters placed in Japan
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in French Indo China
        1 destroyer placed in 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,83
Japanese regular : -0,50
Russians regular : -0,67

Savegame

[JDOW]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0

Game History

Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan
        2 infantry moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kazakhstan
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Kazakhstan
        1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Philippines to 34 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 34 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Kazakhstan
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan
            Japanese win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
        Battle in 34 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 34 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to Philippines
        4 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to Celebes
        3 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to India
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 artillery, 2 battleships, 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 3 transports moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
        2 infantry moved from West India to India
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Afghanistan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to India
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
        1 bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
        2 fighters placed in Japan
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in French Indo China
        1 destroyer placed in 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kweichow: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Hunan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Hunan: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kweichow: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,83
Japanese regular : -0,50
Russians regular : -0,67

Savegame

[farmboy]

@jdow there is a pretty good chance I’ll go for Spain on my next turn. I’m going to look first at other options but I figured that was my last best chance. I assume it’s a safe bet to go max d on the defense there given the units and also since anything short of a win means that I surrender.

[JDOW]

@farmboy Sure, max defense at Spain

[farmboy]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 15

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0

Game History

Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 10 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        2 armour, 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 armour, 4 artilleries, 6 infantry and 6 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Western United States to Spain
        1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Algeria to Spain
        2 armour, 4 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        5 artilleries, 6 fighters and 18 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Spain
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Spain
        1 bomber moved from Brazil to Spain
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Guam to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Spain
            Americans attack with 2 armour, 9 artilleries, 3 bombers, 12 fighters, 25 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 10 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry and 39 mech_infantrys
                Germans roll AA dice in Spain : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Spain
                Americans roll dice for 2 armour, 9 artilleries, 3 bombers, 11 fighters, 25 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Spain, round 2 : 15/55 hits, 20.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 10 armour, 3 artilleries, 9 infantry and 39 mech_infantrys in Spain, round 2 : 29/61 hits, 22.00 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 9 infantry owned by the Germans, 25 infantry owned by the Americans, 4 artilleries owned by the Americans and 5 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Spain
                Americans roll dice for 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 3 bombers, 11 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in Spain, round 3 : 11/26 hits, 13.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 3 artilleries and 34 mech_infantrys in Spain, round 3 : 19/47 hits, 17.33 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans, 2 armour owned by the Americans, 11 fighters owned by the Americans, 5 artilleries owned by the Americans and 11 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Spain
                Americans roll dice for 3 bombers and 4 tactical_bombers in Spain, round 4 : 5/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 3 artilleries and 23 mech_infantrys in Spain, round 4 : 10/36 hits, 13.67 expected hits
                4 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans, 3 bombers owned by the Americans and 5 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Spain
            Germans win with 10 armour, 3 artilleries and 18 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -224
            Casualties for Americans: 2 armour, 9 artilleries, 3 bombers, 12 fighters, 25 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 9 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys
        Battle in 35 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Americans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -6.33
Japanese regular : 0.67
Germans AA : 0.50
Germans regular : 5.00

Savegame

[farmboy]

@jdow Thanks for the game! And sorry for dragging it out there. I had more or less lost the game when you sunk the med fleet but I wanted to see if I could turn it around.

[JDOW]

@farmboy Thanks, was a fun one. It was an intense game and I think Axis were doing okay even prior to butchering the fleet, but Allies had counterplay and things going on, too.

But as you said, after the fleet was annihilated that cheaply, the Allies fought an unwinnable uphill battle.
A bit comparable to my semi final vs AD that was technically lost after I blundered by Jap fleet in turn 2. I dragged it out for another 30 turns, but AD never allowed me to get back in the game.

With regard to the attack on Spain. I believe the battle did not have the potential to turn the tide, even if e.f. Allies would have won with let’s say 1 armor and 8 planes.
You would have needed enough survivors to prevent an IT can opener because otherwise, the TTs would have been butchered the next turn.

Also, Japan was doing extremely well and although I underestimated how long you could defend Korea by defending it so fiercely, it would have become a liability for the Allies sooner or later.
In 1-2 turns I would just have made a push towards it and all ground units would have been butchered after the planes have abandoned them to save themselves.
Also, I still believe I would have taken NSW rather safely if I wanted to. I was too lazy to calculate the implications but I think I had so many planes that I even threatened air strikes on your fleet if it came too close to the Japanese coast.

Good luck in your other games and in the play offs!

[farmboy]

@jdow thanks! Spain might haven not been enough and it was pretty much a given that I was going to sacrifice 7 transports to take it (3 could retreat). But at that point I thought I needed a good result against hte Germans or I was done. Trading for that stack might have put me in a position to hold or retake Spain I thought. Had the dice luck been reversed that first round (you were 7 above average, I was 5.5 below) I actually might have done well enough to hold Spain after with the British landing too.
That wouldn’t have won me the game, but having an allied foothold in Spain and the TUV exchange might have given me some new life.

Had you moved for NSW, I’m not sure you could have helld it and I htought I had a couple of options there. One was to abandon Korea and try to trap your fleet with the air that would come down. I also had thought of moving the US units from the Atlantic (all the transports and most of the air) into the Pacific. I thought with your fleet out of position I might be able to force you to choose between Tokyo and the fleet. But you played it safe and I wouldn’t have had much more luck that way than with Spain.

[JDOW]

@farmboy Btw, I have to mention that overall, I had good dice throughout the whole game. This Caucasus thing was the only thing that could count as bad dice for Germany and compared to the length of the game that was really little.
Especially early Japan had very little losses in those land battles in China that added up.

Also, butchering the Allied fleet could have gone worse. Just wanted to mention that the dice were in favor of the Axis in total during that game.

[JDOW]

And the IT1 went poorly, too, but G1 was very good which is way more important.