L20 #6 trulpen (X) vs simon33 (A) P2V

[trulpen]

@simon33 said in L20 #6 trulpen (X) vs simon33 (A) P2V:

I still think it was a silly attack. If you wanted to force combat, better to fly in 3 ftrs and sit in the Hawaii Sea Zone. I couldn’t ignore that and had to attack. I would have been at an advantage but less than the attack you actually did.

That was the alternative I was looking at.

You also hit well on defence.

Well, my expectation was anyhow higher than reality.

Don’t believe ANZAC will be allowed into the game just yet. ;)

[trulpen]

I might very well be wrong, but looking at the map now, I’m rather happy that I did the attack. Where will the USN run and hide? Those 19 subs are pretty scary though.

[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 65 Sea Zone to New Zealand
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
              Americans take Bulgaria from Germans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        2 bombers and 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in New Zealand
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 artillery
                Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium
            Americans win, taking New Zealand from Japanese, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
        Battle in Southern France
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Southern France
            Americans win, taking Southern France from Germans with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 carrier moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Quebec
        1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 6 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 31 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from Line Islands to 65 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 19 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 65 Sea Zone to New Zealand
        2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Timguska

    Place Units - Americans
        1 airfield, 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,6,3,6,4,2,5,1,3,6,6,5
        Americans collect 59 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 59 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 79 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria
        7 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai
        3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Southern Manchuria
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria
            Chinese win, taking Southern Manchuria from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Tsinghai
            Chinese attack with 10 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 10 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Tsinghai
            Chinese win, taking Tsinghai from Japanese with 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Northern Manchuria

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 armour, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British

    Combat - British

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Cyprus to 101 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to Stalingrad
        4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Stalingrad
        1 armour moved from Southern Caucasus to Stalingrad
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Central India
        1 armour moved from Southern Persia to Central India
        6 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan
        4 infantry moved from Iraq to Southern Persia
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Bulgaria
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Bulgaria
        1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
        1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India
        1 destroyer moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Algeria to Libya
        1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Malta

    Place Units - British
        1 fighter placed in 113 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in United Kingdom
        1 fighter placed in 82 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Southern Persia
        2 infantry placed in Iraq

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 49 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 destroyer placed in 40 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 12 PUs
        Some Units in 40 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 destroyer

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -2.33
Americans regular : 1.33
Japanese regular : -0.67
Germans regular : 1.33

Savegame

[simon33]

@trulpen said in L20 #6 trulpen (X) vs simon33 (A) P2V:

I might very well be wrong, but looking at the map now, I’m rather happy that I did the attack. Where will the USN run and hide? Those 19 subs are pretty scary though.

Well that is where the USN will go. With that IJN positioning, you have slowed the return of ANZAC though.

[simon33]

Hold on, there were no dice as UK so I guess I should be able to add an attack.

[simon33]

@simon33 said in L20 #6 trulpen (X) vs simon33 (A) P2V:

Hold on, there were no dice as UK so I guess I should be able to add an attack.

No, actually attack isn’t good. I guess that is why I didn’t do it the first time.

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl
              Italians take Yaroslavl from Russians
        1 armour moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
              Italians take Greece from Americans

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria
        1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Southern Italy
        4 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tula
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Smolensk to Tula
        1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Austria
        1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Kazakhstan

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 infantry moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 40 Sea Zone to Eastern India
        1 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
        1 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
        1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to New Zealand
        1 cruiser moved from 31 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland
        1 marine moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        1 marine and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 65 Sea Zone to New Zealand
        1 fighter moved from Northern Sinkiang to Russia

    Place Units - ANZAC
        3 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 11 PUs; end with 13 PUs

    Combat Move - French
        1 destroyer moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[trulpen]

Now the battle for Moscow will be interesting!

[trulpen]

For the germans it went well.

[trulpen]

For some reason I can’t upgrade the mIC in Berlin. Trying to figure out why, but it should be possible. Is it the dmg? Must be a bug in that case.

[simon33]

Sounds wrong.

[trulpen]

What happens to the dmg if it’s upgraded?

[simon33]

It stays as far as I am aware. If you remove the damage and can then upgrade it, you would have to reinstate the damage.

[trulpen]

Found the rule on p 27 in a pdf-version. Is not in the mobile friendly version.

“A damaged minor complex may not be upgraded, so any damage on the industrial complex must be repaired at the same time that the upgrade is purchased.”

So I must ask if you’re ok with a change of purchase?

Bought 6 inf, 2 art, 2 fig, MIC-upgrade.

Thinking it should be ok to change the 2 art to 2 inf and have the mIC repaired.

[simon33]

Oh wow. Yeah, alright.

[trulpen]

Thanks, mate!

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_upgrade, 2 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Russia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
        8 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Tula
        8 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Tula to Russia
        9 artilleries and 30 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
        2 fighters moved from Bryansk to Russia
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Belarus to Russia
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Leningrad
            Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad
            Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Russia
            Germans attack with 9 armour, 10 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 32 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 3 fighters; Russians defend with 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 45 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 0/10 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 10 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 32 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 26/69 hits, 23,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 fighters, 45 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Russia, round 2 : 18/56 hits, 20,67 expected hits
                22 infantry owned by the Russians, 18 infantry owned by the Germans and 4 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Russia
                Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 10 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 14 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 : 25/51 hits, 20,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 fighters, 23 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Russia, round 3 : 9/34 hits, 13,33 expected hits
                23 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 10 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 5 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 4 : 21/42 hits, 17,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys in Russia, round 4 : 7/9 hits, 5,00 expected hits
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians, 2 fighters owned by the Russians, 3 fighters owned by the ANZAC, 1 armour owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
            Germans captures 33PUs while taking Russians capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 9 armour, 8 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 8 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 129
            Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 32 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 4 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 45 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters
        triggerRussiansDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to Russians

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland
        2 fighters moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Germany
        2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Tula
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Southern Belarus
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Tula
        2 bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 99 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these Germans owned units to: factory_minor = 0
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Units in Germany being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_minor
        1 factory_upgrade placed in Germany
        2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Western Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 2 artilleries
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 82 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 97 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -5,33
Germans regular : 11,33
Russians AA : -1,67

Savegame

[trulpen]

Hmm, might have missed 2 UK-figs in the Med. It’s all clotted up.

[trulpen]

Well, anyway, let it stand.