Regularkid (Axis) vs. Variance (Allies) - G40 Balance Mod, 0 bid

[variance]

All the standard NOS are in effect unless otherwise stated.  First time playing it, but my guess is its not enough of a bump to Russia to really fix things but its a start.  I like how some of the NOs add more historical accuracy (e.g. solomons will be important; battle of the atlantic; Vichy).  What I would like to see is some variant that makes it really necessary for axis to really put a beat down on Russia EARLY and not win by just doddling around until 1950 or whatever

[variance]

I don’t like how Russia only gets double its lend-lease if japan declares war on Russia.  If I read the rule correctly they won’t get it if they DOW on Japan first, which they often do to move air and other units in to help China early on.

I think it would be cool if Russia would get a free Red Army tank in Moscow every turn once they are at war in the Europe.  That would motivate the Nazis to exterminate Moscow at the earliest opportunity.

ANYway, still waiting for scramble orders…

[regularkid]

No scramble!

[variance]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in Ethiopia
                British attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                British win, taking Ethiopia from Italians with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer
                Germans defend with 1 battleship and 1 submarine
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                British win with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 submarine
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British win with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for British: 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                  UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
            1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                  British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
                  British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Western Australia

Place Units - British
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4
            British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs total
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 32 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            4 mech_infantrys placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 4 mech_infantrys

[regularkid]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in Gibraltar

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,2,3,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5
            Italians collect 3 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs total

[regularkid]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in Gibraltar

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,2,3,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5
            Italians collect 3 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs total

[regularkid]

Variance,

I will be on Christmas break until December 29th, and am unlikely to have much access to TripleA during that time. I may be able to post a turn here and there, but there’s no guarantee of that. So, officially, I’m taking a 1 week break from League games.

Merry Christmas!

Joe

[variance]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 61 Sea Zone to South Australia
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
            1 artillery moved from Queensland to South Australia
            2 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to New South Wales
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

[variance]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - French
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Algeria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 cruiser placed in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Tunisia
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Morocco
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Syria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 destroyer placed in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in French West Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 artillery placed in Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Algeria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Algeria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Indo China
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Madagascar
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove: has removed 1 cruiser owned by French in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Tunisia
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Tunisia
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Morocco
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Guiana
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Syria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Central Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Syria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove: has removed 1 destroyer owned by French in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in French West Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French West Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Morocco
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove: has removed 1 artillery owned by French in Southern France

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

[variance]

The Vichy thing was cool!  I wonder does it still happen if France DOWs on Japan before they go pro-axis neutral?

Anyway, have a nice holiday.  Merry Christmas one and all ho ho ho

[regularkid]

Yes it does. Thanks, you too!

[JDOW]

@variance:

…What I would like to see is some variant that makes it really necessary for axis to really put a beat down on Russia EARLY and not win by just doddling around until 1950 or whatever

Haha, well said! :mrgreen: Lots of truth in that. In fact, this is one of the recent developments we saw in the previous league year. Some strategies evolved to stop the Germans from rushing Russia and the appropriate counter strategy was to play the economic game and drag it out long term.

In fact there was a misconception in place. I guess for a long time many people thought that time always plays for the Allies, however this is not necessarily the case.

[regularkid]

@JDOW:

In fact there was a misconception in place. I guess for a long time many people thought that time always plays for the Allies, however this is not necessarily the case.

Bingo! That, in my opinion, is the #1 balance issue with the game:unlike with every other A&A map I have played, in G40 Axis have the luxury of simply waiting out the allies after a certain income level is achieved, which occurs too early and too easily. Its also the main reason why a simple bid (even in high double digits) is an nadequate prophylactic. Its not the starting units that create the real imbalance. It’s the Axis’s huge positional advantage coupled with Axis-friendly economics over the long term.

The G40 Balance mod addresses this issue by changing the fundamental economics of the game, even as the starting units and early game dynamics remain unchanged. With a possible 37 PU increase in Allied production over time (42 if Japan declares war on Russia unprovoked), the mod creates a ‘race against time’ where Axis must leverage its positional advantage against Allies quickly and effectively in order to keep pace with the Allied production juggernaut in later stages.

[regularkid]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour, 1 bomber and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

Combat Move - Germans
            1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone

[regularkid]

scramble 110?

[regularkid]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour, 1 bomber and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

Combat Move - Germans
            1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone

[variance]

scramble 3 fighters!

[regularkid]

hey, variance, i did the scramble and rolled the battles, but it didn’t post correctly when i clicked “post.” annoying

should i just roll the battles again? i don’t mind. sup to u

[variance]

I didn’t get any emails for the dice so you an roll them again if you want to.  Or you could just save it on your computer and then manually attach it to a post using the “additional options” in the lower left

[regularkid]

oooh. ok. guess i ran it in local mode. i’ll roll it now.