Craykirk (Axis) vs. Inno (Allies + 1 bomber) game 01

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No worry - some day you will :-D

Sam

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 infantry moved from Midway to 57 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 3 Sea Zone to Norway
                  Americans take Norway from Germans
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe
            2 fighters moved from 13 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe
            1 cruiser moved from 13 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 57 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Northwestern Europe
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 3 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Northwestern Europe, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 2 :  3/6 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northwestern Europe
                Americans win, taking Northwestern Europe from Germans with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 13 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Northwestern Europe to 8 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 11 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 11 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 10 Sea Zone to Eastern Canada
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 57 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 56 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier placed in 56 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in 56 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 42 PUs; end with 47 PUs total

Territory Summary for Americans :

3 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    8 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports
    10 Sea Zone : 2 transports
    43 Sea Zone : 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport
    44 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport
    56 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 2 fighters
    Eastern Canada : 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Eastern United States : 1 aaGun and 1 factory
    Gibraltar : 1 infantry
    India : 1 bomber and 1 fighter
    Northwestern Europe : 1 flag, 1 armour and 2 infantry
    Norway : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Solomon Islands : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 20 / 24
    Germans : 28 / 40
    British : 39 / 40
    Japanese : 39 / 39
    Americans : 42 / 47

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from West Russia to Belorussia
            2 infantry moved from West Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery moved from West Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Novosibirsk
                  Russians take Novosibirsk from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 :  3/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Belorussia
                Russians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Belorussia, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Belorussia, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber in Belorussia, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Belorussia, round 4 :  1/1 hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                Germans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -18
                Casualties for Russians: 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  3/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Karelia S.S.R. from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
            2 artilleries moved from Russia to West Russia
            5 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to West Russia
            7 armour moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 armour moved from Russia to West Russia

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Caucasus
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Caucasus : 2 artilleries, 1 factory and 1 infantry
    Karelia S.S.R. : 1 factory and 2 infantry
    Novosibirsk : 1 infantry
    Russia : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 3 infantry
    Ukraine S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    West Russia : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 8 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 12 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 25 / 25
    Germans : 24 / 40
    British : 39 / 40
    Japanese : 38 / 39
    Americans : 42 / 47

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[CrayzKirk]

Good One…  I had my bombers out of position and lost them on the raid.  The original plan was to use them against the navy before that happened…  :cry:

[CrayzKirk]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery moved from Belorussia to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 8 Sea Zone
            10 armour moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R.
            8 infantry moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R.
            3 artilleries moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R.
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe
            1 infantry moved from Italy to France
            1 artillery moved from Italy to France
            1 armour moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe
            1 fighter moved from Germany to France
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe
            1 fighter moved from Germany to France
            1 fighter moved from Germany to 8 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Germany to 8 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Germany to 8 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 artillery moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania

Combat - Germans
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 artillery
                Germans win, taking France from British with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery
            Battle in 8 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 bombers and 3 fighters
                British defend with 2 transports; Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports
                Americans win with 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -44
                Casualties for Germans: 3 bombers and 3 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier and 1 destroyer
            Battle in Northwestern Europe
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Northwestern Europe from Americans with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 2 infantry
            Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 10 armour, 4 artilleries and 8 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 factory and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Karelia S.S.R. from Russians with 10 armour, 4 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                2 fighters owned by the Americans forced to land in United Kingdom

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter could not land in Northwestern Europe and was removed
            2 fighters moved from France to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total

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[CrayzKirk]

I quit…  You win…  There is no way to recover from the 4 bombers and 6 fighters that lose against the allied force.  Losing when you have an advantage is why I quit playing this game.  Everytime i play, I get screwed… Not any fun to have dice screw you…  thanks for the lesson.

[CrayzKirk]

I tried to get my friends to play this game; we played the original AA and the shuck shuck.  Not fun when nothing you try even works.  thanks Inno…  I’m done with this stupid game.

[CrayzKirk]

I didn’t play this game very well to begin with and saw Battleships lose to Cruisers.  If a destroyer could beat a bomber, it did.  I played the tournament and had someone take out West Russia on G1.  I download the replays and don’t really see anything different.  what am i doing wrong other than the dice?

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Hey…I’m sorry to see such a bad dice.  It was frustrating when you see the dices go against your expectation.
The best way to avoid such a swing is maximising the winning odds so the swing of dices would have least impact to you in particularly when the battle is important to win.  In the case below, it might be better to have all fighters go against this so you are much certain winning this win minimum loss to the Germany fighters which is a valuable asset and you don’t have folders in this case.

I didn’t check the battle you played in tournament, do you have that?  Attach here and let me have a look.  Russia is tricky to play because Germany is very strong to start with and there is little space for Russia making mistake.

And don’t give up :-D  Let yourself control the luck, not other way around.

[CrayzKirk]

Yeah…  I really don’t like it when I get so frustrated that i want to hurl the computer across the room.  Look in the tournament thread S01 vs cow…  I had no idea that it was single elimination.  Basically, it was a 55:45 odds to hit West Russia with everything.  It is the reason that Ukraine must be attacked or the infantry are used for the tanks + fighters.  of course, all six AA missed and my initial attack into WR with everything went really wrong.  I know that we all know that we get worse than average rolls…  The loss of 2 bombers on the raids followed by the 3 fig + 3 bmb getting decimated by 1 car, 2 fig, 1 dst just sent me over the edge.  Seems to happen every time.  Yeah, get out the crying towels…  ;)

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The AA seldom works when it matters….It happened to me too :-D

I had a look to the match.  I think the problem of this opening is you chose Baltic state to attack instead of Belorussia or Ukraine.  This way you allow Germany to maximise their force to attack W. Russia on R1, and this is dangerous for Allies because Russia is vulnerable at the early stage, and Russia early fall = Allies failure.

Personally, I also prefer to attack Belorussia than Ukraine, because the dice swing could really screw you when you attack Ukraine, and you are going to lose most of the tanks with this attack.  If you don’t win this battle W. Russia will be immediately under lot of threat.  In the early round, it is important to keep Russia a large stack and keep high odds against Germany so they dare not attack you.

So…don’t give up, you will find the key to success some day :lol: