MrBlowboto (Allies) + Rus bmb vs Gargantua (Axis) G40 -ROUND 2-

[Gargantua]

Battle score for attacker is -103

Well jerk off, you got your Miracle in Russia!  Your infantry hit at DOUBLE what they should have.

Must be nice. Cept the game is still over. :P  Russia has been captured, I’m up 21.  You will likely take it back, but it won’t hold.

[Gargantua]

1 edit. inf/art in NIT to WGER  forgot to move them.

[Gargantua]

Map attached.

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - Russians
            2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk

[MrRoboto]

ool please. only 2 hits first round =(

[Gargantua]

Bomber Last.

AA’s first.

[Gargantua]

Wow epic bad dice x2 for me…

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - Russians
            2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Smolensk
                Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 11 infantry
                Germans defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 2 artilleries and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 40
                Casualties for Germans: 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Novosibirsk: 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Tambov: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Kazakhstan from Germans to Russians
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Samara from Germans to Russians
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Vologda from Germans to Russians
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Urals from Germans to Russians
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Urals from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Kazakhstan: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Samara from Russians to Russians
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Samara: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Smolensk

Turn Complete - Russians

[MrRoboto]

Yeah well you would have lost that battle anyways, but normally i should have lost a bit more, yes.

I’m sorry for all the edits. I only wanted to post the move to ask for your ool, but that wasnt my only attack move. somehow i messed up the order.

u can do the inf/art edit yourself now

[MrRoboto]

and since you are obviously online, we could do a live game as well, if you want.

[Gargantua]

Live game is a bad idea, I’m running off a cellphone connection on a ferry lol.

This game is over though.  There is now NO WAY for you to take a european victory city before the next german turn, and the European Axis have 8.

We can continue, obviously. :) but this is finito!

[MrRoboto]

oh, you’re right. i totally forgot about the victory condition. this is too bad, since things are starting to get interesting on the western europe front.

yes, of course i would have taken normandy in that case. i just forgot that the game is over once moscow falls, cause u have 8 VC in europe. my plan was for us to take normandy and southern france, possibly even normandy.
with us pumping out 6 units in normandy/france each turn and uk shipping over another ~8 units each turn, you can’t hold northern italy, western germany AND france, all the while berlin being threatened by a 1-2 strike denmark->berlin.

[MrRoboto]

*possibly even norway (with a minor factory there)

[MrRoboto]

Well, congratulation then. You deserved that win.

I made a big mistake with Russia in Novgorod. Other than that, I’m actually quite happy with my play. Maybe there would have been a way to hold Egypt a little longer, but the big german luftwaffe pressure made it hard for me to support egypt with transporters. i’m also a bit unsure about my india gameplan, but i think india cant do much more than just holding on.
with a solid russia play there would be ~60 inf now in moscow, denying you the win. and i think since japan will lose hold of the DEI now and italy getting convoyed in africa, i would have had a very good chance at winning. Well, it was a nice game, thank you very much for that.

[Gargantua]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Northern Italy: 1 artillery and 5 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from France: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 harbour and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Burma
            1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Burma
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Burma
            1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
                  Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                  Japanese take 20 Sea Zone from Americans
            1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Burma
                Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 3 artilleries and 13 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 :  2/15 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 3 artilleries and 13 infantry in Burma, round 2 :  5/16 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British , 3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
                3 artilleries owned by the Japanese retreated to Yunnan
                UK_Pacific win with 3 artilleries and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in 36 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 36 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 36 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 36 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 36 Sea Zone from Americans with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Suiyuyan, round 2 :  3/9 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Western Australia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Western Australia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Northern Territory from ANZAC to Japanese
            EDIT: Changing ownership of South Australia from ANZAC to Japanese
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Northern Territory: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to South Australia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to 36 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 36 Sea Zone
            1 harbour placed in French Indo China
            3 infantry placed in Malaya

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 13
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 41 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,5,2,1,5,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 44 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 43 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,2,5,6,4,6,2,1,3,4,4,4,6,1,2,1,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2,2,3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 35 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
            Japanese collect 54 PUs (13 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs total

[Gargantua]

You weren’t going to be holding anything in the DEI. :)

And I had a third Epic dice fail this even,  8 ground units + 7 fighters, 2 hits…

My strafe on your burma stack should have claimed 6 or 7! Then India was doomed! :P

I did find your naval play pretty good in the Pacific, but IMO you epic failed in the atlantic.  Italy has been making +5 IPC’s a turn for the last 5 turns, for no allied ships in the med.  And there has been no threat on my capital.

You should have built 2x airbases on Gib and Morocco, and then moved your navy into the med on the other side of Gib.  Now I have to defend Egypt, Both sides of Italy, basically every zone in the mediterranen.  and if you sneak some subs around, you’ll get Sz97.

This would have done me in. Instead… it was a mexican standoff and nothing happend.

Also… when you are ahead economically, that is the time to trade pieces,  just attacking with your american fleet, even if you “lose” isn’t a bad move necessarily.  Especially if you know you are still 30+ a turn, and the reinforcements you are sending is more than your opponent can muster.

[Gargantua]

You also could have moved to Liberate Egypt last turn.  Build an AB on Malta, and move the yankee fleet up, and brit fleet as well right after.  Now you have 5 transports in range of a lightly Egypt, AND my capital.

[MrRoboto]

well yeah i could/should have moved in. although earlier i faced the danger of a one-two strike from italy+germany. i couldnt afford the risk of losing my fleet. but then again, with two airbases that risk could have been avoided.

maybe i focused too heavily on that whole normandy+southern france play. it worked out really well in other games - having two minor factories right next to germany with usa is super strong.

I still consider attacking, when you’re going to “lose” a bad decision, if you’re in front economically. you could just wait one or two more turns and you will win the battle with very few casualties.

[MrRoboto]

If that’s ok for you, we could just continue to play the game to see how it plays out in the next couple of rounds. I DO think i will get a hold of DEI.

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            4 submarines moved from 82 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
            3 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Borneo
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                ANZAC loiter and taunt with ; Americans attack with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                Americans win, taking Borneo from Japanese, taking 37 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in 71 Sea Zone
                British loiter and taunt with ; Americans attack with 4 submarines
                Italians defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Americans win, taking 71 Sea Zone from Neutral with 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship and 1 transport
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                British loiter and taunt with ; Americans attack with 1 armour, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Malaya
                Americans attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
                Americans win, taking Malaya from Japanese with 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Japanese: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in Northern Territory
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Americans win, taking Northern Territory from Japanese with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Northern Territory to India
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            6 submarines moved from 23 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            3 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 2 fighters and 3 submarines moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia

Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 77 PUs