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XDAP - 02 Final Draft (Axis) vs Dairy Qryn (Allies)
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This has been typical all game. Finally I have the stats to back me up - so you can eat some cheese with your whines!
Germans Combat Average roll: 4.105
Total rolls: 19Russians Combat Average roll: 2.571
Total rolls: 7Must be nice to have that 25% difference forgiving all your mistakes. :P
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You know what it must be… when playing the game, I only see when it’s my turn and the dice are rolled, and the other side really only sees when it’s THEIR turn and the dice are rolled…
and if the dice is always being worse to the attacker, then we’d both feel diced LOL. Must be…
Now that we’re all using 1.6.1.2, we’re going to know by the end of the game.
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7 rolls or 25 rolls isn’t really enough to illustrate the Law of Central Tendency. I could run the math, but I feel reasonably safe saying that an average of 2.571 is not inconceivable over 7 rolls. Something as high as 4.429 is just as conceivable, so higher or lower numbers being the better is just an arbitration of the rules.
If you take a random sample of any 200 rolls, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that the average roll is somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.500.
Like I said before, the number of dice rolled in a game such as this pretty much eliminates luck in the long run. There is something to be said about luck in a clutch situation, yes, but speaking from experience, luck plays its role in every battle. If you follow the teachings of Sun Tzu, though, you should be accounting for bad luck anyway. Either way, the dice should be a moot point. They are just the vehicle for deciding who lives and who dies instead of actually sending troops to sort it out. I am not saying that it is an accurate comparison, dice to troops, but it is one of supreme convenience for the situation, a game.
I have seen good and bad “luck” in this match, but I rest assured that, in the long run, it isn’t luck that will win or lose this match.
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Garg’s post illustrates the math perfectly, by the way, if his point doesn’t necessarily. His 19-roll average is closer to 3.500 than the Russian 7-roll average. If this were Risk, Garg would be flaunting how lucky he is to have rolled so well. High and low are arbitrary to the system. There is no luck.
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What are you talking about satin!
100% of the American rolls are 2! 100% man!
:P
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Usually people look at dice stats for the entire game. Also when you shove 15 units against 1 and only roll 1 hit… usually stuff like that you would omit, because you only needed 1 hit.
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also the dd off london doesn’t matter as a hit, your stuff repairs. :)
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you lost 3 inf for 3 inf, that is breaking even, you can say you got diced if you lost the battle and even then it would only be a little skirmish, you do 100 of them you going to lose a few. It is bound to happen.
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What are the 15 units though? 15 unsupported infantry getting only one hit on offense is not statistically overly improbable. Even with an average roll of 1.933, 15 unsupported infantry could score only 1 hit and roll 14 2’s. That’s why I am saying that it is the context of the rolls, not luck, that is most affecting games of this nature. Luck is just a “false positive.”
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I lost 4 inf and a fighter in korea to 6 russian inf attacking once on russia round 1. It was hilarious.
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That’s a hell of a way to start off a game. lol
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yeah, I still won that game in the pacific, japan owns in this game, even with slightly bad dice.
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I only now realized germany lost a bomber to take nov, how curious.
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What are you talking about satin!
100% of the American rolls are 2! 100% man!
:PLOL
Garg, if you look at the Standard Deviation for both Germans and Russians, you will see both are very close to “1”.
Anything less than about “2.5” for standard deviation means you are not yet outside of the realm of the highly probable dice roll results. -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1
Game History
Round :9
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 4 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Russians
8 infantry moved from Yenisey to Yakut S.S.R.
1 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
Chinese take Hopei from Japanese
2 bombers moved from Russia to Yakut S.S.R.
1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Trans-Jordan
1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern PolandCombat - Russians
Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
Russians attack with 2 bombers and 8 infantry
Japanese defend with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
Russians roll dice for 2 bombers and 8 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 1 : 3/10 hits
Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 1 : 2/7 hits
2 infantry owned by the Russians and 3 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R.
Russians roll dice for 2 bombers and 6 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 3/8 hits
Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/4 hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R.
Russians roll dice for 2 bombers and 5 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 4/7 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits
1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R.
Russians win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Japanese with 2 bombers and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
Casualties for Japanese: 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
Battle in Novgorod
Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 : 2/3 hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Eastern Poland
Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 artillery
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 : 1/2 hits
Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Eastern Poland, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Germans: 1 artilleryNon Combat Move - Russians
1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
1 aaGun moved from Yenisey to Yakut S.S.R.
1 infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yenisey
2 bombers moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Timguska
3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Vologda
1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Vologda
1 armour moved from Belarus to Russia
2 armour and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to BryanskPlace Units - Russians
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
3 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in RussiaTurn Complete - Russians
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1
Russians collect 34 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 34 PUs total
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 43 PUsProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 52 / 65
Russians : 36 / 43
Japanese : 62 / 66
Americans : 53 / 73
Chinese : 7 / 7
British : 20 / 0
UK_Pacific : 6 / 8
Italians : 12 / 16
ANZAC : 10 / 17
French : 7 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 18 / 0 -
nice, very nice, grind on sight :)
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me and my 12 inf and 2 aa guns are going all the way to manchuria and korea bro
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May all your aa gun rolls be 1s! Mine missed so far in Asia. @_@
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I notice you didn’t post the dice report. :)
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We doing dice reports for each turn now? Usually people look at it at the end of the game. I think the worst I ever rolled was 90% 5s and 6s. That was a hilarious game.
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