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L12 G40 wheatbeer (Axis) vs U-505 (Allies) game 2

  • 2007 AAR League

    @wheatbeer:

    In my rush to defend Iraq I left Egypt without any planes to scramble … that was foolish of me.

    Not as foolish as, say, leaving New South Wales under defended because I couldn’t anticipate a Japanese Naval base being built in Java.

  • 17

    Heheh, fair enough.

  • 17

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.9

    Game History

    Round :11

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Germans
                3 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Karelia to Novgorod
                1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
                1 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel
                1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
                22 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Archangel
                2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Smolensk
                2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine

    Combat - Germans
                Germans creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
                Battle in Archangel
                    Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                        Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                    Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Smolensk
                    Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                        Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk
                    Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Bryansk
                    Germans attack with 22 artilleries and 20 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                        Germans roll dice for 22 artilleries and 20 infantry in Bryansk, round 1 :  16/42 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk
                    Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 22 artilleries and 20 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Novgorod
                    Germans attack with 3 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys
                    Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                        Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys in Novgorod, round 1 :  3/7 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Russians , 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                    Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 3 artilleries and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Battle in Bessarabia
                    Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                        Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                    Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Western Ukraine
                    Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                    Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                        Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  5/12 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                        2 infantry owned by the Russians , 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                    Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
                2 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                9 armour moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
                6 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine
                2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
                2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
                10 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Eastern Poland
                1 bomber moved from Archangel to Eastern Poland
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
                4 artilleries moved from Finland to Karelia
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Southern Italy
                1 fighter moved from Iraq to Egypt

    Place Units - Germans
                1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Western Germany
                8 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
                3 artilleries placed in Finland

    Turn Complete - Germans
                Germans collect 48 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs total
                Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
                Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 50 / 63
        Russians : 26 / 35
        Japanese : 45 / 58
        Americans : 62 / 82
        Chinese : 23 / 23
        British : 29 / 29
        UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
        Italians : 21 / 30
        ANZAC : 2 / 0
        French : 7 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

  • 2007 AAR League

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.9

    Game History

    Round :11

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Russians buy 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians
                1 bomber moved from Rostov to Persia
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
                1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
                      Russians take Iraq from Italians
                1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Archangel
                1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Smolensk

    Combat - Russians
                Russians creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
                Battle in Archangel
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Germans defend with 1 infantry
                        Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Archangel, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                        Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                    Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Battle in Smolensk
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Germans defend with 1 infantry
                        Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                        Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                        Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
                    Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Battle in Persia
                    Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                    Italians defend with 1 armour
                        Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Persia, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                        Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Persia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Persia
                    Russians win, taking Persia from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 armour

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                1 bomber moved from Persia to Tsinghai
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Russia
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Russia
                2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 23 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia
                1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Russia
                1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
                1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
                1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
                9 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
                3 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
                5 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria

    Place Units - Russians
                10 infantry placed in Russia
                1 mech_infantry placed in Volgograd

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
                Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Territory Summary for Russians :

    Manchuria : 1 flag, 5 infantry
        Kansu : 1 flag, 3 infantry
        Tsinghai : 1 flag, 1 bomber
        Rostov : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
        Archangel : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Russia : 1 flag, 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 10 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 58 infantry, 10 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
        Tambov : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor
        Novosibirsk : 1 flag, 9 infantry
        Volgograd : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys
        Smolensk : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        125 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
        Iraq : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        Northwest Persia : 1 flag
        Persia : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        115 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 48 / 63
        Russians : 32 / 36
        Japanese : 45 / 58
        Americans : 62 / 82
        Chinese : 23 / 23
        British : 29 / 29
        UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
        Italians : 17 / 30
        ANZAC : 2 / 0
        French : 7 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

  • 17

    I know this is obvious, but since it’s a league game I’m going to ask anyways.

    Need scrambling orders SZ20

  • 17

    map

  • 2007 AAR League

    definitely scramble all aircraft. Are you sure you want to bring the TP’s to the battle?

  • 17

    whoops, no, that wasn’t my intent since annihilation is fairly likely

  • 17

    I’ll probably need OOL too

  • 17

    Japan had 14 hits in round 1

  • 17

    I assume you want to damage all capitol ships and sink all submarines and all destroyers.

    I don’t know for sure whether you want to sink cruisers or carriers at this stage though.

  • 2007 AAR League

    6 hits to the heavies, 3 SS, 1 DD, 1 CA, 3 CV.

    I can’t edit the map in the middle of the battle so I’m going to list my units here so I don’t have to keep calculating what’s left.

    That leaves me with 1 DD, 2 dmgd CV, 2 CA, 1 tac, 15 fig, 1 dmgd BB.

  • 2007 AAR League

    BTW, what did you do with the TP’s? I may need that info for OOL decisions.

  • 17

    I made no combat movement with the transports

    Japan took a heavy beating (20 Allied hits, all but 1 of your @4s hit)

    Japan has 10 fig, 4 tact, 1 bomber, 2 damaged bsh left

    rolled 8 hits for round 2

  • 2007 AAR League

    1 DD, 2 CA, 5 fig

    That leaves me with 2 dmgd CV, 1 tac, 10 fig, 1 dmgd BB.

  • 17

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.9

    Game History

    Round :11

    Purchase Units - Japanese
                Japanese repair 3 damage on 3 airfields; Remaining resources: 55 PUs;
                Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Japanese
                    Japanese are now being played by: Human
                    Germans are now being played by: Human
                    British are now being played by: Human
                    Chinese are now being played by: Human
                    Neutral_Axis are now being played by: Human
                    Neutral_Allies are now being played by: Human
                    Russians are now being played by: Human
                    Mongolians are now being played by: Human
                    Italians are now being played by: Human
                    Americans are now being played by: Human
                1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from French Indo China to 20 Sea Zone
                6 fighters moved from Japan to 20 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from India to 20 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
                2 battleships, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
                Americans scrambles 3 units out of Kwangtung to defend against the attack in 20 Sea Zone
                Americans scrambles 3 units out of Formosa to defend against the attack in 20 Sea Zone
                Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 destroyer
                    Americans defend with 1 transport
                        1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 35 Sea Zone
                    Japanese win, taking 35 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
                Battle in 20 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 14 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers
                    ANZAC defend with 1 submarine; Americans defend with 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
                        Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                        Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 14 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  14/26 hits
                    Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans and 2 carriers owned by the Americans
                        Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  20/27 hits
                    Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese
                        2 submarines owned by the Americans , 1 destroyer owned by the Americans , 3 carriers owned by the Americans , 2 cruisers owned by the Japanese , 1 cruiser owned by the Americans , 4 carriers owned by the Japanese , 3 destroyers owned by the Japanese , 4 fighters owned by the Japanese , 1 submarine owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 20 Sea Zone
                        Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 10 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 :  8/17 hits
                        Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 15 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 :  14/22 hits
                        5 fighters owned by the Americans , 1 destroyer owned by the Americans , 1 bomber owned by the Japanese , 4 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese , 2 cruisers owned by the Americans , 7 fighters owned by the Japanese and 2 battleships owned by the Japanese lost in 20 Sea Zone
                    retreated to 20 Sea Zone
                    Americans win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 10 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -156
                    Casualties for Japanese: 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 11 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
                    Casualties for Americans: 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters and 2 submarines
                Battle in Persia
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                    Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                        Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Persia, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Persia, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Persia
                        Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Persia, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Persia, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Persia
                    Japanese win, taking Persia from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Kwangtung
                Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Kwangtung
                Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Kwangtung
                Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Formosa
                Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Formosa
                Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Formosa
                    4 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans forced to land in Kwangtung

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
                3 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to Japan
                4 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
                1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
                1 artillery placed in French Indo China
                4 fighters placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
                Japanese collect 43 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 44 PUs total
                Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 59 PUs
                Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 48 / 63
        Russians : 30 / 36
        Japanese : 47 / 64
        Americans : 62 / 82
        Chinese : 23 / 23
        British : 29 / 29
        UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
        Italians : 17 / 30
        ANZAC : 2 / 0
        French : 7 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

  • 17

    With the max defense oriented OOL, the most likely outcome would leave the Allies with a damaged Battleship and a small group of planes (1-3).

    I expected to lose, but losing but this margin in a key battle (especially when the Allies chose a less defense oriented OOL) tips the game badly.

  • 17

    I think the Axis should probably concede since Japan won’t be able to contribute anything after a few rounds.

  • 2007 AAR League

    @wheatbeer:

    With the max defense oriented OOL, the most likely outcome would leave the Allies with a damaged Battleship and a small group of planes (1-3).

    I expected to lose, but losing but this margin in a key battle (especially when the Allies chose a less defense oriented OOL) tips the game badly.

    Yeah, I think I eyeballed max defense at around 4 remaining US units on average. But, I knew that even if you had won, I still had 2 SS, 5 bmb to mop up anything you had left so I could afford to gamble a little with my losses.

    @wheatbeer:

    I think the Axis should probably concede since Japan won’t be able to contribute anything after a few rounds.

    I’d say see what Germany does against Russia before you pack up.

  • 17

    Even if Japan got lucky with a victory in SZ20, I planned to sink Battleships and save planes instead.

    I’ll keep going to see what happens in Europe if that’s what you prefer.  I’m skeptical at the moment though, because that battle was meant to help the European Axis as much or more than Japan.

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