L12 G40 wheatbeer (Axis) vs U-505 (Allies) game 2

[U-505]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.9

Game History

Round :10

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

Territory Summary for French :

United Kingdom : 1 flag, 1 fighter
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 43 / 60
    Russians : 33 / 35
    Japanese : 45 / 58
    Americans : 62 / 82
    Chinese : 23 / 23
    British : 29 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 21 / 30
    ANZAC : 2 / 0
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[U-505]

@wheatbeer:

In my rush to defend Iraq I left Egypt without any planes to scramble … that was foolish of me.

Not as foolish as, say, leaving New South Wales under defended because I couldn’t anticipate a Japanese Naval base being built in Java.

[wheatbeer]

Heheh, fair enough.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.9

Game History

Round :11

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            3 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
            22 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Archangel
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Smolensk
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine

Combat - Germans
            Germans creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Smolensk
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk
                Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 22 artilleries and 20 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 22 artilleries and 20 infantry in Bryansk, round 1 :  16/42 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 22 artilleries and 20 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 3 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys in Novgorod, round 1 :  3/7 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians , 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 3 artilleries and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  5/12 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians , 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            9 armour moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            6 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
            10 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Archangel to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            4 artilleries moved from Finland to Karelia
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Egypt

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Western Germany
            8 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            3 artilleries placed in Finland

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 48 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 50 / 63
    Russians : 26 / 35
    Japanese : 45 / 58
    Americans : 62 / 82
    Chinese : 23 / 23
    British : 29 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 21 / 30
    ANZAC : 2 / 0
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[U-505]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.9

Game History

Round :11

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 bomber moved from Rostov to Persia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
                  Russians take Iraq from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Smolensk

Combat - Russians
            Russians creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
            Battle in Archangel
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Archangel, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Smolensk
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
                Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Persia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 armour
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Persia, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Persia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Persia
                Russians win, taking Persia from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 bomber moved from Persia to Tsinghai
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Russia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Russia
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 23 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            9 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
            3 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
            5 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria

Place Units - Russians
            10 infantry placed in Russia
            1 mech_infantry placed in Volgograd

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Territory Summary for Russians :

Manchuria : 1 flag, 5 infantry
    Kansu : 1 flag, 3 infantry
    Tsinghai : 1 flag, 1 bomber
    Rostov : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Archangel : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Russia : 1 flag, 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 10 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 58 infantry, 10 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
    Tambov : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor
    Novosibirsk : 1 flag, 9 infantry
    Volgograd : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys
    Smolensk : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    125 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
    Iraq : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    115 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 48 / 63
    Russians : 32 / 36
    Japanese : 45 / 58
    Americans : 62 / 82
    Chinese : 23 / 23
    British : 29 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 17 / 30
    ANZAC : 2 / 0
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

I know this is obvious, but since it’s a league game I’m going to ask anyways.

Need scrambling orders SZ20

[wheatbeer]

map

[U-505]

definitely scramble all aircraft. Are you sure you want to bring the TP’s to the battle?

[wheatbeer]

whoops, no, that wasn’t my intent since annihilation is fairly likely

[wheatbeer]

I’ll probably need OOL too

[wheatbeer]

Japan had 14 hits in round 1

[wheatbeer]

I assume you want to damage all capitol ships and sink all submarines and all destroyers.

I don’t know for sure whether you want to sink cruisers or carriers at this stage though.

[U-505]

6 hits to the heavies, 3 SS, 1 DD, 1 CA, 3 CV.

I can’t edit the map in the middle of the battle so I’m going to list my units here so I don’t have to keep calculating what’s left.

That leaves me with 1 DD, 2 dmgd CV, 2 CA, 1 tac, 15 fig, 1 dmgd BB.

[U-505]

BTW, what did you do with the TP’s? I may need that info for OOL decisions.

[wheatbeer]

I made no combat movement with the transports

Japan took a heavy beating (20 Allied hits, all but 1 of your @4s hit)

Japan has 10 fig, 4 tact, 1 bomber, 2 damaged bsh left

rolled 8 hits for round 2

[U-505]

1 DD, 2 CA, 5 fig

That leaves me with 2 dmgd CV, 1 tac, 10 fig, 1 dmgd BB.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.9

Game History

Round :11

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese repair 3 damage on 3 airfields; Remaining resources: 55 PUs;
            Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
                Japanese are now being played by: Human
                Germans are now being played by: Human
                British are now being played by: Human
                Chinese are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Axis are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Allies are now being played by: Human
                Russians are now being played by: Human
                Mongolians are now being played by: Human
                Italians are now being played by: Human
                Americans are now being played by: Human
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from French Indo China to 20 Sea Zone
            6 fighters moved from Japan to 20 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 20 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            2 battleships, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Americans scrambles 3 units out of Kwangtung to defend against the attack in 20 Sea Zone
            Americans scrambles 3 units out of Formosa to defend against the attack in 20 Sea Zone
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 35 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in 20 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 14 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 1 submarine; Americans defend with 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 14 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  14/26 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans and 2 carriers owned by the Americans
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 20 Sea Zone, round 1 :  20/27 hits
                Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese
                    2 submarines owned by the Americans , 1 destroyer owned by the Americans , 3 carriers owned by the Americans , 2 cruisers owned by the Japanese , 1 cruiser owned by the Americans , 4 carriers owned by the Japanese , 3 destroyers owned by the Japanese , 4 fighters owned by the Japanese , 1 submarine owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 20 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 10 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 :  8/17 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 15 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 :  14/22 hits
                    5 fighters owned by the Americans , 1 destroyer owned by the Americans , 1 bomber owned by the Japanese , 4 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese , 2 cruisers owned by the Americans , 7 fighters owned by the Japanese and 2 battleships owned by the Japanese lost in 20 Sea Zone
                retreated to 20 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 10 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -156
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 11 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters and 2 submarines
            Battle in Persia
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Persia, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Persia, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Persia
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Persia, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Persia, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Persia
                Japanese win, taking Persia from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Kwangtung
            Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Kwangtung
            Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Kwangtung
            Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Formosa
            Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Formosa
            Moving scrambled unit from 20 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Formosa
                4 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans forced to land in Kwangtung

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to Japan
            4 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
            1 artillery placed in French Indo China
            4 fighters placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 43 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 44 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 48 / 63
    Russians : 30 / 36
    Japanese : 47 / 64
    Americans : 62 / 82
    Chinese : 23 / 23
    British : 29 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 17 / 30
    ANZAC : 2 / 0
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

With the max defense oriented OOL, the most likely outcome would leave the Allies with a damaged Battleship and a small group of planes (1-3).

I expected to lose, but losing but this margin in a key battle (especially when the Allies chose a less defense oriented OOL) tips the game badly.

[wheatbeer]

I think the Axis should probably concede since Japan won’t be able to contribute anything after a few rounds.

[U-505]

@wheatbeer:

With the max defense oriented OOL, the most likely outcome would leave the Allies with a damaged Battleship and a small group of planes (1-3).

I expected to lose, but losing but this margin in a key battle (especially when the Allies chose a less defense oriented OOL) tips the game badly.

Yeah, I think I eyeballed max defense at around 4 remaining US units on average. But, I knew that even if you had won, I still had 2 SS, 5 bmb to mop up anything you had left so I could afford to gamble a little with my losses.

@wheatbeer:

I think the Axis should probably concede since Japan won’t be able to contribute anything after a few rounds.

I’d say see what Germany does against Russia before you pack up.