A lot of posters seemed stunned at this scenario, never scene it ever happen or even could happen. Now that I mulled it over last night and looked at the rules and so forth it is very obvious to me why no one has ever scene this scenario. Because the scenario makes no logical sense.
Italy DOW on Russia and moves in 2 tanks into Eastern Poland.
Russia is now at war with Italy and can DOW on Germany at the start of their next turn, turn 3.
Germany on Turn 3 does not DOW on Russia and just non combats into Eastern Poland.
Russia at the start of Turn 3 DOW on Germany and off we go.There is no logical reason why Russia would not DOW on Germany at the start of Turn 3, none.
Heck you could argue that it makes no logical sense that Germany did not DOW on Russia at the start of G3 since Italy brought Russia into the war and Russia WILL DOW on Germany on R3.
Hi PainState,
From my perspective, if I was planning on doing a G3 Barbarossa AND I wanted to drive towards the south, then yes, it makes sense to not DOW. My stack will be together except for the minimum required mobile units and maybe 1 AAA in Poland so Russia doesn’t attack Poland to get their NO for occupying an Axis territory. But E. Poland will be real strong because the German air will be there and maybe bombers will also be in range of a raid on the Moscow factory. Also, 5 IPCs is more income than I’d probably get as Germany on the 1st turn.
There are a few disadvantages of course. 1, Russian blockers can’t be attacked. 2, the Scandinavian units are behind. But for me that’s ok, I just use them to lay siege anyways. I never expect to get Moscow on turn 6 anymore. I assume that the UK/Anzac and that lone French fighter are going to get to Moscow.Â
Southern France for Germany
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@Cmdr:
Your post about the normandy fighter for England. I’m not overly worried about it and I do not think that it’s worth the potential loss of 4 ground units to kill.
Figured taking Normandy on G1 anyway and killing the fighter is just a bonus. Of course my overall strategy is saving Italy and the axis winning Africa. With Japan doing their part in the Pacific then U.K. is pretty well tamed. Remember not playing for victory cities makes a different game. Heck, I dont even know what the VCs are without looking it up.
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IMO Killing the Bristish fighter in Normandy will help Italy more than Germany taking southern France. Southern France is a place Italy can actually help out with and, Germnay can’t afford to be building things in the Med. anyway. They have both Russia and the U.K. to deal with.
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IMO Killing the Bristish fighter in Normandy will help Italy more than Germany taking southern France. Southern France is a place Italy can actually help out with and, Germnay can’t afford to be building things in the Med. anyway. They have both Russia and the U.K. to deal with.
If Germany has southern France then they are in position to help Italy if needed. There is also that bonus for Germany in Egypt. If the axis do not hold Africa then Germany will never be able to deal with U.K. plus the U.S. and Russia.
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IMO Killing the Bristish fighter in Normandy will help Italy more than Germany taking southern France. Southern France is a place Italy can actually help out with and, Germnay can’t afford to be building things in the Med. anyway. They have both Russia and the U.K. to deal with.
I’ve tossed in a few submarines in the Med, if only to keep the Anglo-Americans out.
Realistically, it is the easiest way to get a ground unit to Egypt and I am not a virgin in putting 2 cruisers and a transport in the Med so I can assist in N. Africa. It’s worth 5 IPC for Germany and, coupled with the Med, 10 IPC + TT for Italy. THen there’s the bonuses for the Middle East and, in Barbarossa, that’s a huge boon as well.
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@Cmdr:
IMO Killing the Bristish fighter in Normandy will help Italy more than Germany taking southern France. Southern France is a place Italy can actually help out with and, Germnay can’t afford to be building things in the Med. anyway. They have both Russia and the U.K. to deal with.
I’ve tossed in a few submarines in the Med, if only to keep the Anglo-Americans out.
Realistically, it is the easiest way to get a ground unit to Egypt and I am not a virgin in putting 2 cruisers and a transport in the Med so I can assist in N. Africa. It’s worth 5 IPC for Germany and, coupled with the Med, 10 IPC + TT for Italy. THen there’s the bonuses for the Middle East and, in Barbarossa, that’s a huge boon as well.
Absolutly, great post!
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I am not a virgin
Never before was there such a true statement.
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I am not a virgin
Never before was there such a true statement.
OK Gar, you did it again. You have left no doubt this time. You are definatly a mental case.
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I am not a virgin
Never before was there such a true statement.
OK Gar, you did it again. You have left no doubt this time. You are definatly a mental case.
Wait, you had doubt???
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@Cmdr:
I am not a virgin
Never before was there such a true statement.
OK Gar, you did it again. You have left no doubt this time. You are definatly a mental case.
Wait, you had doubt???
CJ, does Gar remind you of Brain Damaged?
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Drain bamaged?
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@Cmdr:
Drain bamaged?
Yes thats the one!
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I don’t care what you say, oss-ifer, there’s no blood in my alkee-haul system!
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