L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4


  • Hoping for a good and interesting game, @farmboy.

    Bid placement
    sub z91
    sub z106
    marine India


  • Fail in Normandie and of sorts also in z111. Also sucked to lose the tac to aa in France, but it’s risk that is accounted for.

    G1 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 1

       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Politics - Germans
    
           Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
    
           2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
    
           1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
    
           1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
    
           1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
    
           1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
    
           3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
    
           2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
    
           1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
    
           1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
    
           Battle in 110 Sea Zone
    
               Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
    
               British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 4,83 expected hits
    
               Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
    
                   British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   1 cruiser owned by the French and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
    
               Germans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 44
    
               Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
    
               Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
    
           Battle in Yugoslavia
    
               Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
    
               Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
    
                   Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 4/15 hits, 4,50 expected hits
    
                   Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
    
                   Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 3/13 hits, 4,17 expected hits
    
                   Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
    
               Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
    
               Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
    
               Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
    
           Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
    
               Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    
               French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
    
               1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Holland Belgium
    
               French win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
    
               Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    
           Battle in 111 Sea Zone
    
               Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
               Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,83 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
    
               Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 battleship owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
    
               Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 44
    
               Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
               Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
    
           Battle in France
    
               Germans attack with 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
    
                   French roll AA dice in France : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
                   1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in France
    
                   Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 6/16 hits, 5,00 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 4,33 expected hits
    
                   1 aaGun owned by the French, 5 infantry owned by the Germans and 5 infantry owned by the French lost in France
    
                   Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 : 3/11 hits, 4,17 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in France, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
    
                   Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys in France, round 4 : 5/9 hits, 3,83 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 2 armour and 1 fighter in France, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   1 armour owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 armour owned by the British lost in France
    
               Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
    
               Germans converts factory_major into different units
    
               Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
    
               Casualties for Germans: 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
    
               Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
    
           Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
    
           triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
           2 bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
    
           1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
    
           1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
    
                 Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
    
           3 infantry moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary
    
           3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
    
           1 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
    
           3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
    
                 Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
    
           1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
    
           1 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           1 carrier placed in 112 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -1,33

    Neutral_Allies regular : -0,00

    Germans regular : -4,17

    British regular : -1,83

    French AA : 0,83


  • Hmm, will consider landing some air in Holland.


  • Stack Holland with some air.

    L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg


  • Yikes, forgot about z91. Will consider again.



  • @trulpen yeah, that was an unusual start for the game. I think it potentially hurts us both actually but should change the game’s trajectory a bit.

    Sov1.tsvg


  • It definitely will.

    J1 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 1

       Purchase Units - Japanese
    
           Japanese buy 1 marine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
    
    
       Politics - Japanese
    
           Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Japanese
    
           1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
    
           1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
    
                 Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
    
                 Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
    
           2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
    
           1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
    
           2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
    
    
    
       Combat - Japanese
    
           Battle in Yunnan
    
               Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Chinese defend with 4 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3,50 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
    
               Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
    
           Battle in Hunan
    
               Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    
               Chinese defend with 2 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 6/8 hits, 3,33 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
    
               Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Japanese
    
           3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
    
           2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
    
           1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
    
           1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
    
           1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
    
           4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
    
           1 fighter moved from Korea to Jehol
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Jehol
    
           1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
    
           1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
    
           2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Caroline Islands
    
           2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
    
           1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
    
           1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
    
    
       Place Units - Japanese
    
           1 marine placed in Japan
    
           3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Japanese
    
           Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 40 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -1,00

    Japanese regular : 4,17


  • @trulpen Ch1.tsvg UK will probably be coming tomorrow. Lots to figure out there.


  • Ok, thanks for letting me know.


  • @trulpen

    now that I’ve had a chance to play that turn, I think you are right that you were hurt more by that G1. I was thinking in terms of the dice (0 hits in 110 and getting annihilated in 111). But the outcome of that compared to other G1s (is that you have a couple of surviving subs in 110 and we trade BBs. Not significantly worse for the allies.

    I thought one of my mistakes in our previous game was that I didn’t try very hard to save the damaged 111 BB. This time I had planned to change that, and then your dice denied me the opportunity and forced me to sacrifice units to recover it. But the German BB is a more valuable piece. Its interesting that if you had one less hit in 111, this becomes a much better turn for you.

    I also am generally hesitant on vichy since in the long run doing it gives the allies the income from French territories, so I overlooked the implications of that. Now you have to adjust and either risk Italian air or just not do it in round 1 or at all. So that produces quite the dilemma early in the game.

    UK1.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 57 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 carriers placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 marine placed in Eastern United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Szechwan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 12 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 battleship and 1 submarine
                    British roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            2 fighters moved from 111 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
                  British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                  British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                  UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Tanganyika Territory
            1 fighter moved from Burma to India
            2 infantry moved from Burma to India
    
        Place Units - British
            1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 1.67
    Italians regular : -0.33
    Japanese regular : -1.00
    Germans regular : 0.33
    British regular : 2.17
    

  • @farmboy said in L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4:

    now that I’ve had a chance to play that turn, I think you are right that you were hurt more by that G1. I was thinking in terms of the dice (0 hits in 110 and getting annihilated in 111). But the outcome of that compared to other G1s (is that you have a couple of surviving subs in 110 and we trade BBs. Not significantly worse for the allies.

    Strafing with the bs was the plan soaking a hit. Atleast 1 UK fig went down in flames.

    I thought one of my mistakes in our previous game was that I didn’t try very hard to save the damaged 111 BB. This time I had planned to change that, and then your dice denied me the opportunity and forced me to sacrifice units to recover it. But the German BB is a more valuable piece. Its interesting that if you had one less hit in 111, this becomes a much better turn for you.

    One less hit would’ve been great for me. Paradoxical.

    I also am generally hesitant on vichy since in the long run doing it gives the allies the income from French territories, so I overlooked the implications of that. Now you have to adjust and either risk Italian air or just not do it in round 1 or at all. So that produces quite the dilemma early in the game.

    Vichy helps Italy a lot from the bat, which is why I like it. It’s at the same time as you say some extra income for the Allies later on. However, might be that Tunisia will be converted to try and prevent the US NO. Usually pretty difficult anyway.


  • @trulpen yeah. I don’t mean to say vichy is a bad move. Just that there is a trade off and I’ve tended to be more hesitant to go for it because of that. But it is part of your strategy and you have a solid axis strategy so the failure to get normandy with Germany is more consequential.


  • Now there’ll be no Vichy and there was much rejoicing. :)

    This already has become a rather different game from the previous ones.

    I1 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 1

       Purchase Units - Italians
    
           Italians buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Politics - Italians
    
           Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
    
               Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Italians
    
           1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
    
           1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
    
           1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
    
           1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
    
                 Italians take Alexandria from British
    
           1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
    
                 Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
    
           1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
    
                 Italians take Kenya from British
    
    
    
       Combat - Italians
    
           Battle in Greece
    
               Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
    
               Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Greece, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2,17 expected hits
    
                   Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
    
                   4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece
    
               Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
    
               Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
    
           Battle in 93 Sea Zone
    
               Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
    
               French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the French, 1 cruiser owned by the French and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone
    
               Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
    
               Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
    
               Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
    
           Battle in Tunisia
    
               Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    
               French defend with 1 infantry
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tunisia
    
               Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
    
               Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for French: 1 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Italians
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
    
           1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
    
           1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
    
           1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
    
           1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
    
    
    
       Place Units - Italians
    
           1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Italians
    
           Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
    
               Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5
    
           Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 0,50

    Italians regular : 0,83

    Neutral_Allies regular : 0,67


  • @trulpen Fre1.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  ANZAC take Java from Dutch
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to Sumatra
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
            Trigger French Liberate Southern France2 activates a trigger called: Trigger French Liberate Southern France3
    
        Non Combat Move - French
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to Nigeria
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • Is it ok to only blitz Alexandria with Italy? Must’ve missed to add the amphi to the equation.

    If it’s ok would you have wanted to attack Alexandria or Sudan with ANZAC?


  • @trulpen that is fine. And no, I wouldn’t blitz with anzac


  • Thanks!

    G2 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 2

       Research Technology - Germans
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 12 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 96 Sea Zone
    
           2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery moved from France to Southern France
    
                 Germans take Southern France from French
    
           1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 96 Sea Zone
    
           EDIT: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           Battle in 96 Sea Zone
    
               Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               British defend with 1 destroyer
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3,50 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
    
               Germans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
    
               Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
    
           2 bombers moved from 96 Sea Zone to Western Germany
    
           2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
    
           5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
    
           3 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Greece
    
           2 submarines moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
           5 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany
    
           2 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Poland
    
           1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
    
           2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
    
           1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
    
           1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
    
           1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
    
           1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to France
    
           1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
    
           1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
    
           1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
    
           2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 112 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
    
           10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
    
           3 infantry placed in France
    
           1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0,50

    British regular : -0,33


  • @trulpen

    Sov2.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Belarus
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Vologda
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
    
        Place Units - Russians
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            6 infantry placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • J2 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 2

       Purchase Units - Japanese
    
           Japanese buy 1 carrier, 4 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Japanese
    
           1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
    
                 Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
    
                 Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
    
                 Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
    
           3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
    
           1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           2 bombers, 5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Yunnan
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Yunnan
    
    
    
       Combat - Japanese
    
           Battle in Yunnan
    
               Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers
    
               Chinese defend with 5 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 7/18 hits, 9,33 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 5 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
    
               Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Chinese: 5 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Japanese
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 42 Sea Zone
    
           2 carriers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
    
           2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
    
           3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
    
           1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
    
           3 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
    
           1 armour moved from Korea to Jehol
    
           2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
           1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
    
           4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Hunan
    
           2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Kwangsi
    
    
    
       Place Units - Japanese
    
           1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
    
           4 infantry and 1 marine placed in Japan
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Japanese
    
           Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0,67

    Japanese regular : -2,33

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