L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs aequitas-et-veritas (A) PtV


  • Only scramble to z94.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs aequitas-et-veritas (A) PtV:

    I don’t agree with the attack on z99.

    There is no practical way any carriers will make it to pick up the fig and tac, so they’re sent on a suicide mission.


  • @trulpen correct. Triple would have also allowed this attack without my DD beeing a possible Clear Clerk, so my “CV” would have a “possible” “landingspot”.
    But like you allready said, it is within the rules like the sneaky Karl.


  • @trulpen nett gain 5x7=35 IPC on the bottom of the Adria vs 20 IPC’s spended through Warbonds (Captain America did a great job!), a plus of 15 for Allies.


  • C’est la vie.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Italians scrambles 2 units out of 95 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in 94 Sea Zone
            Battle in New Guinea
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 5 transports
                    5 transports owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
                Casualties for Italians: 5 transports
            Battle in 94 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer
                Germans defend with 3 fighters; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 3 fighters and 3 submarines
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 3 submarines in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers and 6 fighters in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 9/15 hits, 7,67 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 94 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 6 fighters and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Algeria
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Algeria, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Algeria
                Americans win, taking Algeria from Italians with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Moving scrambled unit from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            Moving scrambled unit from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber could not land in 99 Sea Zone and were removed
            4 fighters moved from Algeria to 93 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Algeria to 93 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            4 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 destroyers and 3 submarines placed in 11 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Central United States
            1 fighter placed in Western United States
            1 submarine placed in 104 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 2 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Scotland to Eire
                  British take Eire from Germans
    
        Combat - British
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Eastern India
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern India to Burma
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Eastern India to Western India
            1 fighter moved from Eastern India to Western India
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Burma to Eastern India
            1 armour, 8 artilleries, 2 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
    
        Place Units - British
            1 destroyer placed in 113 Sea Zone
            1 transport placed in 83 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in Egypt
            1 submarine placed in 109 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians : 0,50
    Americans : -1,17
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 9

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 destroyer and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
                  Italians take Tobruk from British
    
        Combat - Italians
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • Scramble z113?


  • @trulpen full scramble, DD dies last.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 9

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 destroyer and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
                  Italians take Tobruk from British
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                    Italians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Italians, 2 fighters owned by the Italians and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Italians: 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 battleship moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Saratov to Tambov
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 destroyer and 4 transports placed in 97 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 22 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 31 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians : 1,17
    British : 1,67
    

    Savegame


  • A killer defence.


  • Think I’ll change the placement of the fleet.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 9

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 destroyer and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
                  Italians take Tobruk from British
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                    Italians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Italians, 2 fighters owned by the Italians and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Italians: 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 battleship moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Saratov to Tambov
            1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 destroyer and 4 transports placed in 97 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 22 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 31 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians : 1,17
    British : 1,67
    

    Savegame


  • @aequitas-et-veritas said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs aequitas-et-veritas (A) PtV:

    @trulpen nett gain 5x7=35 IPC on the bottom of the Adria vs 20 IPC’s spended through Warbonds (Captain America did a great job!), a plus of 15 for Allies.

    Think it’s a little different.

    Trannies cost 6 here, so 30 lost for Axis.

    US sacrificed a des, fig and tac, which is 28.

    +2 for Allies. Still a plus.


  • But what mainly sucked for me was the loss of tempo.


  • @trulpen oh you are right.
    6 instead of seven.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: French round 9

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
    
        Combat - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 submarines moved from 64 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 64 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 10

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

    Game History

    Round: 10
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 8 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            4 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 118 Sea Zone
            2 bombers and 3 fighters moved from Leningrad to Russia
    
        Combat - Germans
            Air Battle in Russia
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • Intercept Moscow?


  • No Thank you @trulpen.

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