Diplomacy: Neutral VCPs
At what point do the neutral VCPs kick in for victory consideration? I could make a case for either +/-3 (e.g., when you start collecting it’s income) or +/-5 (e.g., when it is fully committed). The rules aren’t clear or I didn’t read them close enough.
We’re in a tight game of back and forth and Spain goes into -3 Diplomatic status. Axis wants to start claiming the +2 VPs for Madrid and Allies have no way of countering it. Should the VPs for the VCs only be counted when there troops in the country (e.g., +/-5) or is “dems da breaks!”.
For neutrals their VC status does not count unless they are full allies ( you control their forces and can move them outside the neutrals borders). So it may be possible to even attack Spain while its your ally. This was actually Hitlers plan under Operation Isabella if Franco didn’t cooperate. Of course then Spain becomes a new ally of UK immediately, which can control its armed forces. Now if you think you can just move Spains army outside and take madrid, your wrong because Dec of war are made during the movement phase, allowing the new controlling player (UK) to reposition her remaining armed forces in spain immediately to defend against German aggression. So the important point is you cant claim the VC points until its a full ally.
Phase 5: Non-combat Move: Reinforcement (passive)
Can you load up infantry on a transport during this phase and send them out to sea?
Its implied. For example If during reinforcement phase Italy wants to bring some infantry to Africa. They can do this provided they have a transport and 2 units for each transport can be transfered to this front, so if you only have 2 transports only up to 4 land units can be brought over. And yes you can just send them to ‘sea’ if you want during NCM
Victory Conditions:
LITE doesn’t have the disclaimer from AARHE 4.0:
“Victory is achieved if victory conditions are maintained for one full game round.”
Example (note: we were using Diplomacy and LITE, but it applies to conquering as well):
Axis wanted to claim victory right after the Diplomacy roll that took Spain to -3 (n.b., assuming that you start collecting the 2 VPs for Madrid at -3 along with the income. I’m still hoping for a ruling that +/-5 is required).
Point is though, don’t the Axis have to allow the Allies the benefit of trying to take something back and hold the required VPs for a whole turn?
Yes +/- 5 IS REQUIRED TO COLLECT VC. The allies GET a full turn to attempt to retake something in order to restore the game away from axis victory, so for one turn you must survive.
Maybe the LITE rules should say
“Victory is achieved if you hold the required VP points at the start of your turn. Axis required 45 points; Allies 55 points.”
Yes i too agree. WE will have tekkyy add it.