MOVED: Honor and Infamy (Commander upgrade for A&A)

@Zaibach: Hi! I really like the idea of simultaneous turns, because many people are not ready to play an 8 hours or more game! Hovewer there are too many rules you created, and i think the capabilities of attacking together is too much powerful for the allies. I make a soft version of this rules for A&A Global: That could be for Global, but for the 1999 version of A&A Europe, the Axis are so overpowering that with the official rules and experienced players, it’s a forced win for the Axis.  Just buy soldiers and a few artillery and tanks on the following turns and then you have an unstoppable force that takes over Moscow.  With this change, the Allies sometimes, but don’t always win.  If with your group the Allies win too much, it might be the players, but if not, I’m sure you could come up with some rules to weaken the allies such as not being able to use each others transports. I’d like to pursue the every player playing at the same time for Global, but may save that for a future post.  What you’ve outlined seems a safe way to speed things up without unduly altering the game balance. Regarding the rules: I posted a lot of details, but it’s actually very simple.  “Germany” is simply divided in half with a second player who will possess half the territories and starts with half the money.  The rules themselves are the same, except all the allies play at the same time.  It’s really just as simple as that.  The axis already played at the same time since it used to be one country (the Axis already could pool their money, build in either factory, etc.) .

Got it, thanks for all the replies everyone. I’d agree with one of the posters that the rule could be worded better. Cheers G

Guys, I don’t know how many folks here scan all the boards, but there is a fellow that formed a company called Field Marshall Games, FMG for short.  He is making accessories for A&A and is about to release new pieces for the A&A games.  The first release will be a complete set of Italian pieces.  The other nations will follow and I think this is going to be a great thing.  If you have time, check out this thread. http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=13894.0 It is already over 35 pages, so it will take a long time to read.  But the essence is he is about to take the next step and take pre-orders for the Italian pieces.  I bought a set of special dice from FMG and I am happy with them.  He is also selling a dice tower.  He plans to add other stuff.  I hope he gets plenty of support so he can fund the development of all his projects.  Take a look.  The set will include some new pieces which may help with your house rules.

@Black_Elk: Japan’s starting IC violates the island prohibition, even in the OOB game, which always struck me as inconsistent. Japan is not an island, its a continent like Europe, Africa, Greenland or Australia.

if people want to know, just look in the back of the AAE40 rule book where it distinguishes all types of units

Attached are the D12 Unit Rules and National Advantages I use for a 1941 set up of HBG’s 1939 MAP. National Advantages are a combination of good ideas from this forum over the years. Unit Stats Global Map D12.xls

We use our own tech charts that are country specific. This is for Global 1940 but could be adapted to any game. Germany 2 – The jet age begins and the ME-262 takes to the skies. Fighters defend at a 5 during ground attacks and scrambles, and defend at 3 during strategic and tactical bombing. 3 – King Tiger tank is developed and rolls off the assembly line. Armor now attacks on a 4. 4 – Type XXI U-boat is unleashed upon the Atlantic. Submarines attack at 3 and defend at 2. 5 – Nebelwerfer rocket packs delivered to the front. All artillery can support 2 infantry or mechanized infantry. 6 – Waffen SS divisions now attached to regular army divisions. “4+1” For every 5 infantry in a combat or defense. One attacks and defends at +1. With an attached artillery the attack value is increased to 3. 7 – V-2 Rocket is developed. Airbases may now conduct one industrial or naval/air base attack on a zone within 4 spaces. One die of damage is rolled per German controlled operational air base. 8 – Long range aircraft. All aircraft flight range is increased by 1 movement. 9 – Advanced radar. AA guns hit at 2 during strategic and tactical bombing raids. 10 – Improved mechanized infantry. All mechanized infantry attacks at a 2. Artillery do not boost. 11 - Improved aviation engineering and manufacturing. Fighters now cost 8 IPC. 12 – Atomic weapons. A new age of terror begins as the Nazis harness the power of the atom. Atomic bombs cost 24 IPC to build. Only two may be built per turn. May not be built on same turn as breakthrough turn. Move as infantry by land or sea. If loaded on a strategic bomber, it can move the current range of the bomber Due to a lack of trained technicians and engineers, a nation may possess no more than 2 weapons at one time. Due to the size and nature of the airburst associated with the nuclear warhead, no attack roll is required to score a successful hit. No air defense, such as fighter scramble, is allowed due to the altitude of the strike plane and surprise of the attack. Only upgraded fighters may intercept. Long range aircraft or jet power technology must have been researched. An atomic weapon is treated as an AAA gun if the territory in which it is stored is attacked.  No AAA guns are to be fired due to the altitude of the strike plane and surprise of the attack only normal AA gun with factory can fire. Airbase and naval base do not fire AA. Any industrial complex is attacked with 4 dice disabled to maximum value of 20 for major and 2 dice disabled to maximum value of 6 for minor complexes. Any airbases or naval bases are attacked by one dice of value. One dice is rolled and that number of units of defenders choice eliminated. AAA guns may be chosen. If used on a naval assault: The nuclear strike cannot be combined with surface vessels. Due to the altitude of the strike plane and surprise of the strike, aircraft on carriers and loaded troops on transports are considered to be cargo and provide no defense. The 5 hits are assessed and the attacking bomber returns to base. No 2nd attack is permitted. Transports chosen last. USSR is not permitted to develop weapons until they are in a state of war. 1 – IL-2 Sturmovik rolls off the line. All fighters now attack at 4 when paired with a matching armor. 2 – T-36 rolls off the line. Tanks now attack at 4. 3 – Katyusha rocket packs to the front. Artillery can support 2 infantry. 4 – Russian home guard. “4+1”, for every 5 infantry on defense one defends at 3. 5 – 6 Roll again Japan 1 – Kaiten submarine is unleashed upon the Pacific. Submarines attack at 3 and defend at 2. 2 – Improved ship building. Battleships cost 17 and carriers cost 13. 3 – Ship radar. Battleships now hit and defend at 5. 4 – Improved capital ship design. Battleships and carriers now require 3 hits to destroy. 5 – Long range aircraft. All aircraft flight range is increased by 1 movement. 6 – Improved aviation engineering and manufacturing. Fighters now cost 8 IPC USA is not permitted to develop weapons until they are in a state of war. 2 – B-29 is developed by Boeing. Roll 2 dice for each strategic bomber in a combat or strategic raid. Range is increased to 8. 3 – Improved factories and manufacturing methods. Cost of all units except infantry, reduced by 1 IPC. 4 – Ship radar. Battleships now hit and defend at 5. 5 – Improved capital ship design. Battleships and carriers now require 3 hits to destroy. 6 – Improved ship building. Battleships cost 17 and carriers cost 13. 7 – P-51 Mustang rolls off line. Fighters now have a range of 6 8 – Rocket barges developed. Destroyers may now conduct shore bombardment at a 2. 9 – Improved mechanized infantry. All mechanized infantry attacks at a 2. Artillery do not boost. 10 – Long range aircraft. All aircraft flight range is increased by 1 movement. P-51 is not increased. 11 – Jet power developed. Fighters defend at 5 during defense and scramble and 3 during strategic and tactical bombing raids. 12 – Atomic weapons. See German section. United Kingdom 1 – Sterling bombers developed. Roll 2 dice for each strategic bomber in a combat or strategic raid. 2 – Ship radar. Battleships now hit and defend at 5. 3 – Improved capital ship design. Battleships and carriers now require 3 hits to destroy. 4 – SAS Commandos. On first round only, of an amphibious assault infantry hit on a 2. Matching artillery boost to a 3. 5 – Anti-aircraft radar improvements. AA guns hit on 2 during strategic and tactical bombing. 6 – Spitfire III rolls off the line. Fighters now defend at 5 during defense and scrambles and 2 during strategic and tactical bombing raids. Italy 1 – Long range aircraft. All aircraft flight range is increased by 1 movement. 2 - Improved aviation engineering and manufacturing. Fighters now cost 8 IPC 3 – Improved mechanized infantry. All mechanized infantry attacks at a 2. Artillery do not boost. 4 – Mobile artillery. Artillery may now move 2. 5 – Frogmen commandos. On the first round of combat only, 2 extra dice are rolled prior to a naval attack. A roll of 2 or less is a hit. Hits are assessed prior to the main attack. 6 – Roll again. Australia – due to lack of industry and supplies are limited to naval improvements only. ANZAC is not permitted to develop weapons until they are in a state of war 1 – Improved ship building. Cost table Battleship 17 Aircraft Carrier 13 Cruiser 9 Destroyer 7 Transport 6 Submarine 5 2 – Ship radar. Battleships now hit and defend at 5. 3 – Improved capital ship design. Battleships and carriers now require 3 hits to destroy. 4 – 6 – Roll again.

Tanks are definitely not as good of a buy as they used to be. I think 2 infantry is a much better buy.