Balladeer (axis) v alexgreat (allies + 20)

[Balladeer]

Seems you got a AB for just a downgrade of tb to fighter, want me to remove des / sub in 101?

[Balladeer]

@alexgreat:

yes, of course. I attach the files.

Battles for UK were in India only.
Battles for US were in Africa (all of them lost, one survivor of 5 attackers).

Ah, the dice have turned! (at least temporarily) ;)

[Balladeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 12

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Archangel
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Nigeria
                  Italians take Nigeria from British
            3 armour moved from Union of South Africa to South West Africa
            1 fighter moved from Rhodesia to South West Africa

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Archangel
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in South West Africa
                Italians attack with 3 armour and 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking South West Africa from British with 3 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from South West Africa to French Equatorial Africa
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to French Equatorial Africa

Place Units - Italians
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
            3 armour placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 12
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,2,3,2,4,2,4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3
            Italians collect 16 PUs (12 lost to blockades); end with 17 PUs total
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs

[lexgreat]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 12

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  British take Alexandria from Italians

Combat - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[lexgreat]

Thx for allowing edit, I really believe there is no connection to US combat, let alone UK. Still, you allowed far more than anyone can expect.

As for Africa, a total disaster and maybe more momentous than many battles that didnt go well for you. Having said that, I do not have ANY reasons to complain about dice in this game. And there is a thing or two I wish I had handed differently (maybe true for you also?).

[lexgreat]

To qualify my statement, even if some of the battles with bad luck for you may have not been that important, overall you would be far closer to victory had that battles go average, of course.

[Balladeer]

@alexgreat:

To qualify my statement, even if some of the battles with bad luck for you may have not been that important, overall you would be far closer to victory had that battles go average, of course.

Yes, differently some things I should have done differently:

• letting some 60/40 battle for US vs Japan exist is no good as the ANZAC can follow up.
• should have put the Ger fleet in 113 after you made that many subs
• should’ve watched better how I could keep pressure on fin / 125 while attacking Rus
  some other stuff as well I guess.

And about the importance of the fights: real hard to say. If you had won / done better with US (I think clearing SA but not taking it would’ve been above average allready) I don’t think it would have changed the game, Ger is getting too close to Moscow / Volgograd and Egy is safe, so Euro victory seems hard to avoid.
Also if a few rounds ago the Jap dice had been average you wouldn’t have gotten this chance, there would be more Jap fleet, Chi would be long dead, SFE would’ve been taken far earlier freeing up units to take India or go Russia harder, taking away Rus income, letting Ger get there earlier - all in all, much more income for Axis than Allies.

I guess the bad dice in the Med in turn 2 (I think it was) hurt you most…

[lexgreat]

Thats what I mean, cumulative you would be far more ahead, yes.

[Balladeer]

Right, but given the situation, your US dice still s***ed

[Balladeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
                  Germans take Rostov from Russians
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 70 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Central Africa
                  Germans take French Central Africa from Americans
            1 bomber and 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
            24 armour, 14 artilleries, 21 infantry and 23 mech_infantrys moved from Smolensk to Bryansk

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 70 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 24 armour, 14 artilleries, 21 infantry and 23 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 3 infantry
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 24 armour, 14 artilleries, 21 infantry and 23 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Vologda
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Germany
            2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark
            2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            3 armour moved from Novgorod to Finland
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Vologda to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from 70 Sea Zone to French Equatorial Africa
            3 aaGuns moved from Smolensk to Bryansk

Place Units - Germans
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            1 armour and 2 artilleries placed in Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry placed in Germany
            2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,1,4,5,1,3,5,6
            Germans collect 48 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs

[lexgreat]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
                  Chinese take Suiyuyan from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Sikang to Szechwan
                  Chinese take Szechwan from Japanese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Rostov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Rostov
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda
            1 fighter moved from Samara to Vologda

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Vologda
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda
                Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Russia
            1 aaGun and 1 mech_infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Vologda to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Volgograd

Place Units - Russians
            7 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs total

[Balladeer]

Hmm, just thought that I should put a destroyer in 45 as well, can you edit that (from 36)?

Thx

[Balladeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            5 armour moved from Burma to India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Szechwan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
            1 bomber moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Kansu
                  Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yenisey to Evenkiyskiy
                  Japanese take Evenkiyskiy from Russians
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 5 armour
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Japanese captures 5PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital
                Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 5 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to India
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
            1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Chahar
            1 bomber moved from Suiyuyan to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to French Indo China
            3 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Malaya to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 36 Sea Zone
            3 fighters placed in Malaya

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 65 PUs; end with 75 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs

[lexgreat]

Can very well be that a combined US/UK attack against Egypt is the last straw. Depending on US suicide hits, chances range from low 30s to high 50s or so.

In hindsight I regret not having put an inf per turn or so on South Africa. Somehow I thought US would be more effective in Africa.

[Balladeer]

Yes, bit too much effort for US to get something serious done in Africa… I guess you missed the Ita Ger attack a couple turns back, allowing the Ita units acces to SA? If you had thrown 3 inf the turn before that and once again the next, perhaps you could’ve held it…

[lexgreat]

Didnt miss it, just kind of let it happened. It was a total lack of judgement, especially of US part of it.

[Balladeer]

Allright, can happen as well, just as I misjudged the effectiveness of US / ANZAC attack against Jap fleet

[lexgreat]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 36 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 45 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Northern Territory to 45 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Egypt
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Marianas
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Marianas from Japanese with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 4 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 4 fighters in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 45 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Egypt
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Italians defend with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 4 fighters, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Egypt, round 2 :  3/4 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Egypt, round 2 :  15/25 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans, 1 armour owned by the Americans, 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                Italians win with 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 69 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 87 Sea Zone to French West Africa
            1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Scotland to 111 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 45 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 4 submarines and 2 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            1 aaGun moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            2 destroyers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 30 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands

Place Units - Americans
            2 fighters placed in Norway
            1 fighter placed in Norway
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Brazil
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 62 PUs; end with 63 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 88 PUs

[lexgreat]

so due to a lucky strike it comes down to a 55% chance in Egypt. If you win, its over any way. If I win significantly, I have a fighting chance. If I barely take it, I dont know, not enough I guess.

Shall I take the German land units last, if it comes to that? Or rd by rd casualty choice?

[Balladeer]

Ehm, depends a bit on the amount left, I’d prefer round by round. But I’ll choose planes anyways, so if you just play max defense and don’t mind if I replace Ger ftrs with Ita ftrs afterward depending on the amount, that’s good too…