• Im thinking of starting Exodus (not the book from the bible) Any thoughts on this book?


  • Jermofoot…

    Not being a Scientologist, not having selected any for pleasure reading, I cannot speak to any comparisson with L. Ron Hubbard.

    Actually, Ayn Rand’s basic principle, at least in Atlas Shrugged, is not so much of the “above average” getting credit, but of the “doers” being the slaves of the lazy.  While the main characters of Atlas Shrugged are all above average in terms of skill, ability, etc., there are enough sub-stories about the “average Joe” to show how even the small cogs in the machine get screwed over if they strive to achieve in a system that takes from the producers to give to non-producers.

    So, while the “heroes” are all very skilled people, it also does an excellent example of showing what happens to just ordinary folks who are trying to work hard to make a living and take care of their families as the current mood of government social programs reaches its logical and dreadful conclussion.

    In all honesty, if you have never read it, go to a used book store, pick up a copy, and start plowing through it (the paperback is about 1100 pages).  Took me 3 months to read over the summer, Angel took 2 to read it, and she kills a book a week on average.

    WELL worth the time investment in this one.


  • i’m sorry, but wasn’t Ayn Rand the one who asserted that Canada is lucky that the US let’s us exist next door to them??  For some reason i thought it was her, but it may be some other US conservative - if so, my bad.


  • I am not familiar with any such statement.

    But then again, I have only read the one book.


  • i believe it was ann coulter.


  • Well, Ayn Rand was circa 1940’s.  Ann Coulter is 21st C.  So, the time of the remark would certainly indicate who said it :-)


  • Finished Cell by Stephen King. Wasn’t very good.

    Recently finished Otherland series by Tad Williams. Very good. Titan, by Stephen Baxter is also good. Any of the Sharra books is always a good read. And Catton’s Reflections on the Civil War is very good, though not as good as Killer Angels.


  • Speaking of Titan…

    For Sci-Fi Readers… Titan, Wizard and Demon by John Varley (the Gaea Trillogy) are a great read…


  • @ncscswitch:

    Well, Ayn Rand was circa 1940’s.  Ann Coulter is 21st C.  So, the time of the remark would certainly indicate who said it :-)

    :D
    that’s just excellent.  Proof again that i need to get out more (or stay in and read more).
    Thank you Janus/switch.


  • Rereading William L Shirers, Rise and Fall of the third Reich… classic book if their ever was one.


  • @Imperious:

    Rereading William L Shirers, Rise and Fall of the third Reich… classic book if their ever was one.

    On my shelf, and on my list for next sumer’s read (I do one LONG classic each summer)


  • @ncscswitch:

    @Imperious:

    Rereading William L Shirers, Rise and Fall of the third Reich… classic book if their ever was one.

    On my shelf, and on my list for next sumer’s read (I do one LONG classic each summer)

    I also have a copy of of it, but have yet to read it.  I opted recently to start Liddel-Hart’s just as massive account of WW2.  It’s hiliarious to read how pompous he is about his predictions before the war, but just as informative about the hard facts.
    Switch - I’ll have to give Ayn Rand a chance, then.  Even if I feel like I don’t like some of her perceptions, that doesn’t mean she won’t be a good read.
    And CC - welcome back.  You’re trip was enjoyable/productive?

    I’m also a HUGE Vonnegut fan.  I’d have to recommend some of his books, namely Slaughterhouse-Five for it’s relation to these boards (his account of the Dresden firebombings - told in his weird ass style).


  • If you are going to read Ayn Rand… just pick the one that is the pinnacle of her writings… Atlas Shrugged.

    The others are precursors for the most part… incompletely developed; or her non-fiction of her philosohpical principles.

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    I had alot of time to read reciently, I’ve found I’m not much in the mood for realistic type books right now.  I started into some Clancy, but lost interest.  I did read Davinci Code on the plane over.  I devoure books :) 20 hous for that one… I also read the second one, it was beter in my opinion.

    The week before, belive it or not, I read the first four Potter books.  I loved them and am looking forward to the fifth.  I just cracked Drew Carey’s Dirty Jokes and Beer.  Like I said reality escape :D


  • @Jermofoot:

    And CC - welcome back.  You’re trip was enjoyable/productive?

    thanks a lot man!

    I had an absolutely WONDERFUL trip - from the moment i set foot in Vancouver, through the three weeks of Australia, until midnight when i arrived back into Winnipeg.

    Now for endless days and nights of bliss in the ICU . . . . :-(


  • I’m working on two books on my lengthy “to read” shelf.  The first is The Sling and the Stone, by Marine Col. Thomas Hammes. It’s an assessment of modern American military doctrine.  The second book is Misfire by William Hallahan, a rather overly critical work on the history of American arms manufacturing, trying to highlight the failures such as early rifle manufacturing at Springfield and Harper’s Ferry, all the way to the M-16 fiasco early in the Vietnam campaign.


  • I just finished reading the abridged memoirs of Winston Churchill, covering WWII of course. It was new for me to get the British perspective, and very informative.

    Also, A Feast for Crows by George R.R. Martin.

    For those about to read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich- excellent book- I’ve read it twice. You won’t be disappointed.

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