13L Playoffs R1 Arathorn (Axis) vs Hobo (Allies +17) NT

[hobo]

scramble the scotland fighter, best defense ool

[arathorn]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 109 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                1 battleship owned by the Germans retreated to 112 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 battleship and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 41
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                3 infantry owned by the Germans , 2 armour owned by the Germans and 2 artilleries owned by the Germans retreated to Romania
                Neutral_Allies win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Moving scrambled unit from 111 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Scotland
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Western Germany
            2 aaGuns moved from Germany to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 56 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Turkmenistan
            2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            6 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

[arathorn]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese

[arathorn]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 artillery moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 artillery moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Korea to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi

Place Units - Japanese
            1 artillery placed in Japan
            3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 41 PUs

[MrRoboto]

Giving such a great player as Hobo a +17 bid is courageous.

I don’t know you yet, Arathorn - so I’m rooting for Hobo, who crushed me clearly in two games.

Anyway, good luck and have fun you two.

[arathorn]

@MrRoboto:

Giving such a great player as Hobo a +17 bid is courageous.

I don’t know you yet, Arathorn - so I’m rooting for Hobo, who crushed me clearly in two games.

Anyway, good luck and have fun you two.

Welcome to the thread MrRoboto. Glad to have you follow our game.
You’ve done well in the league yourself this year, so I am happy to have players like you watch us. It’s an honour!

Regarding this game and the bid, I would say it is all about the adaptation to the situation.
Hobo is indeed a very great player, and his stat in the league is nothing but very impressive. Especially his win streaks. So Hobo deserves all the respect due to a great A&A player.

However, he and I have never played a game before, so we both have the opportunity to “surprise” each other. And since he stated that he really wanted the Axis in the playoffs, I was willing to bid him up to take the Allies. He could have bid me up to +18, but he accepted the +17. I believe that one should always try to get the side you really want, your stronger side, in a competitive match like this one is. Development of your “weaker” side for those of us that aren’t equally strong with both sides (like allweneedislove) is for less competitive league games or for the lobby/play boardgames section.

Back to the bid, I think it is an exaggeration to use the word courageous regarding the size of the bid. Allow me to explain:

Let me first say that yes, a bid can affect the game one way or the other, that is of course true - but to what extent is a completely different debate. People need to stop being so afraid of bids, especially the larger ones, especially when we’re using 1 unit per territory limitation.

Think about it - the Allies start with a TUV of 2072. A 12 bid is only 0.57% added to the TUV. That’s not even a 1% addition! Everybody knows that in ONE single battle roll in a small to medium battle, that entire bid can be annihilated.

A 17 bid is only 0.82% added to the TUV, so not even such a “big bid” breaks the 1%.
Not until you have a bid of 21 will you have 1 single percent added in TUV, and even that isn’t proportionally considered “big”.

Statistically, it is almost insignificant, because dice will be rolled, and that can change everything.
When a battle in 112 with scramble can see a TUV swing of -74 for allies if they completely whiff or only get one hit (which I have seen happen, though rarely), a bid of 30 would suddenly not seem that big as the losses would be terrible.
Same goes for a failed G1 attack. Let us say that you capture France with only 2 tanks left (negative swing of 20, and strategically a weaker position, since instead of average of 12-13 units left, you only have 2, a swing of -10 units). If also a sea battle fails miserably and you’re short 3-4 planes, a bid of 6 could appear to be “massive” if placed correctly.

I am not discounting the process of using bids for determination of sides - BUT I am trying to be a “balancing voice” in the debate regarding bid sizes and its ramifications in the LONG run.

Short term, yes, a bid can say a lot, especially the way things look before the game starts. But then the dice have to be rolled, and any bid of less than 1% added to the TUV can be swallowed in one bad roll, in a small battle. And suddenly the “advantage” is gone, all do the a bad roll.

I started by saying, it is all about adaptation, and I will conclude by saying that regardless of bid size and placement, a player must then take that into consideration in the execution of the next turn. In this game, it wasn’t tempting to take out 91 with the regular 2 subs, since it would depend on luck with the extra sub there. But had I done it and succeeded, his bid would suddenly have been “reduced” to 11. Also, had he only had a bid of 11, and NOT placed a sub there, and I had taken 2 subs there and LOST, it would have been the same as if he got a bid of 17.

That might have been longer than I intended, but again, thank you for stopping by.
If you want a better and more precise opinion about “bid size” matters, you can ask Gamerman, as he and I share the same views on this.

Again, thank you for following the game, even though you “root” for hobo ;) hehe. Just kidding.

It will be a fun game!

[MrRoboto]

I totally agree, that something like a 12 bid isn’t much, compared to what happens during only a single battle. That’s why I don’t care that much if I receive a +15 bid or a +5.

That being said, certain thresholds are important. In some zones, one more unit might make the difference. If that unit means the attacker has 60% instead of 80% win chance, it could be a big issue. Personally, I hate attacking with only 60% success chance.

An artillery to Amur, an Art to Alexandria or Sudan, the med subs, the inf guinea - all of these starting bids have significant relevance. It’s not only the raw TUV that comes with the bid. It’s the opportunity that comes with some of these options.

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to 31 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to Wake Island
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Wake Island
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Western United States
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Wake Island

Place Units - Americans
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs total

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Shensi
            5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Shensi

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs

[hobo]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 95 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 95 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 95 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 artillery moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 armour moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia

[hobo]

submerge/scramble orders for z95

[arathorn]

Send both fighters up to defend the italian glory!

[arathorn]

Could you roll the 95 battle on the forum?

Triplea does the sub battles incorrectly, and since it could have an affect in this battle, being subs on both sides, I’d prefer if it was rolled on the forum, and just edited in afterwards.

Thanks!

[arathorn]

I forgot to say - sub fights! 2 hits with the Italian sub ;)

[hobo]

How?  The subs are rolled separately along with air so it should be right from all the sub/air combats I’ve seen.  But anyways.

Italian sub
Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (3)

[hobo]

UK 2subs 1cruiser
Rolls: 2@2 1@3; Total Hits: 12@2: (6, 3)1@3: (2)

[hobo]

UK 1fig 1tac 1bom
Rolls: 1@3 2@4; Total Hits: 31@3: (1)2@4: (2, 4)

[hobo]

ok I assume you use best def

Italy 1des 1cruiser 2fig
Rolls: 1@2 1@3 2@4; Total Hits: 11@2: (5)1@3: (6)2@4: (6, 2)

[hobo]

I’ll lose 1 sub

round 2 UK, sub cannot hit your fighter so 1cruiser 1fig 1tac 1 bom
Rolls: 2@3 2@4; Total Hits: 32@3: (1, 1)2@4: (6, 2)